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2007-04-21 - 01:17 PM Post #61
get rid of the beanstalk pieces and the alien tree and it's perfect, man. Oh yeah, and some kind of invisible support blocker (preferably one at zero-clearance [aka not ja227's]...)
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2007-04-21 - 01:56 PM Post #62
Added Gride.....and I won't get rid of the supports since it would just create another dupe.

Why would I get rid of the beanstalk and the other dead tree? They don't take up valuable space and are good for theming.

On the support blocker...ja227's is one at clearance=0 and has worked for everything I have always wanted to do with it. Although I am tempted to leave it out because it takes up a SS slot.
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2007-04-21 - 02:02 PM Post #63
^That'll work just fine. I'm not used to using support blockers and didn't realize there was one in the bench.
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2007-04-21 - 02:09 PM Post #64
Oh...don't know know if they are the same, but there are two repeated wood planks (53rd and 54th object of the Base Blocks Scenery Group)...they're similar at least.
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2007-04-21 - 02:18 PM Post #65
Yeah, they're at different height levels.
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2007-04-21 - 02:40 PM Post #66
Hmm, what I don't like about the walls is that they only are 1/4 height tall, you should include 2/4 height tall walls. It takes much longer to make buildings... If you have some empty wall spaces, please add some 2/4 walls.

Also, I think the patriotic wall is just... out of space.
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Hey how about you shut the fuck up eh!
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2007-04-21 - 02:49 PM Post #67
I dont think he's gonna wanna add unneccessary 1/2 wall pieces just to save a tiny bit of time....many other valuable scenery pieces can be included instead, which is much more important as far as im concerned.
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2007-04-21 - 03:00 PM Post #68
Hey gee, could you add MS-CR00C, please?
I find this roof very useful.
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2007-04-21 - 08:44 PM Post #69
^ Sure can.

And yes, the walls are all maxed out...they are well over the 128 limit. Including bigger walls is just a waste of space...however I did include the 8 and 16 pixel wall for the wooden walls since you cannot make the 16 texture with two 8 walls. Same with the steel walls.

Trust me, I've spent a lot of time thinking about it.

As for the patriotic swag, I think it comes in very useful theming wise, so it's staying.

Truth is I hardly find walls useful when building anyways, but that is just my style.
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2007-04-21 - 09:07 PM Post #70

View Postgeewhzz, on Apr 21 2007, 10:48 PM, said:

Truth is I hardly find walls useful when building anyways, but that is just my style.


Same with me, I hate the paper-thin wall effect RCT has, so I usually just build with the blocks.

Oh, and kudos to whoever makes quarter tile glass roofs.
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2007-04-22 - 07:25 AM Post #71
I don't suppose there is any room for those wooden coaster supports by TMK is there? I think they were used in the Nostalgia Vale H2H park.
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2007-04-22 - 08:50 AM Post #72

View Postzodiac, on Apr 21 2007, 10:11 PM, said:

Same with me, I hate the paper-thin wall effect RCT has, so I usually just build with the blocks.

Oh, and kudos to whoever makes quarter tile glass roofs.


great idea :D .
wil work on it tomorrow ;) .

what do you think is better?
make a side also (so the side is glas also) or only make the roof it self without a closed side ?

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Levis basically ignores all "RCT rules" and just builds whatever comes to his mind..
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2007-04-22 - 10:38 AM Post #73
With the side as well i think.
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2007-04-22 - 12:24 PM Post #74
both :p

But if i had to choose, i'd say with the side.
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2007-04-22 - 02:04 PM Post #75
Yes, a side is nice, especially since there's no triangular-shaped wall to fill the gaps on the regular glass roofs.
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2007-04-22 - 08:23 PM Post #76
The bench has been completed.

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2007-04-22 - 08:31 PM Post #77
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2007-04-22 - 08:35 PM Post #78
PLEASE make this the bench to use during the Pro Tour.
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2007-04-22 - 08:51 PM Post #79
I second Gwazi.

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2007-04-22 - 09:14 PM Post #80
Just downloaded it...it's perfect! :D
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2007-04-22 - 09:37 PM Post #81
Just took a more in-depth look and played around with it a bit. There are couple things I didn't like, but as you say in the ReadMe, I will customize the bench a little to fit my style.

Those things, though, are as follows: You got rid of the 1/4-tile ice blocks, which I would use a lot, many of windows that I like 1/4-tile aren't provided as so, there's a couple wall textures/arches that I'm not seeing that I like, and there are a few unnecessary objects, such as the 7X7 Black Background (You could use smaller versions) and support blocker (IMO, using the full tile blocks works just as well, with one less object). Also, some custom rides and stalls weren't included.

Still, this is prolly the best workbench I've ever seen, so after I customize it, it will be absolutely perfect. :D
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2007-04-22 - 10:03 PM Post #82
The compiled bench is all my preference. Everything in the pictures on page 2 is included in the tab. I thought it was pretty obvious not everything was going to fit, that wasn't the point of this. The point was to include everything I felt was useful in the object world so YOU can customize a bench easier and everything won't show up in the ? tab.

Ice blocks are pointless...but like I said, customize it to your liking and everything that is a good object should show up in a tab. I don't see ANY point to ice blocks unless you plan to do some sort of section that needs them. If you counter this by saying "but I use them for waterfalls" Then I say to you....be creative and use Toon's light castle quarter blocks and color it one of the light blues next to teal and it gives the SAME effect behind a waterfall.

I don't see your point.....how is the 7x7 MT black square useless? There are still about 15 or so MT slots left, so it's not wasting space. I sure don't want to take the time to put a 1x1 black square over every square I'm covering up.

The support blocker is pretty important....not just for coasters sakes, but sometimes there are shitty objects made that draw supports under them and you don't intend to place objects under it, so the support blocker comes in handy because you can hold shift and raise it up. It also fixes some glitches when zero clearancing through objects, if there is a glitch you can try placing the support blocker there and it will fix it.

Most custom stalls and rides suck, period. Nobody wants to deal with that shit when exporting a park.
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2007-04-22 - 11:11 PM Post #83
It says I'm missing data. It starts with "GWWT' and has a lot of ones and zeros. I have no clue what it is. I tried writing it down, but it's too long.
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2007-04-22 - 11:14 PM Post #84
Then you missed a file to copy to your data dir. There are only two of them, and they are both pieces I made.

GWWTRHWF.DAT
GWWTRDWF.DAT

They are both in the zip file...check again.
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2007-04-22 - 11:20 PM Post #85
I know what the problem was. I extracted the contents of the folder, but nothing happened. To make sure it worked, I copied a couple objects into my folder. Those were already there, so I figured all the files had been extracted when they actually hadn't been.

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2007-04-23 - 12:46 AM Post #86
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2007-04-23 - 01:29 AM Post #87
Thanks Geewhzz!

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2007-04-23 - 02:57 AM Post #88
good job geewhzz :) .
there are still some minor glitches in it but it's pretty good already :) .

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2007-04-23 - 06:12 AM Post #89

View Posteman, on Apr 21 2007, 03:53 PM, said:

I dont think he's gonna wanna add unneccessary 1/2 wall pieces just to save a tiny bit of time....many other valuable scenery pieces can be included instead, which is much more important as far as im concerned.


You have obviously not built anything significant with this restriction. Last year's RCT2.com Valentine Park contest had only 1/4 height walls and it took a lot longer to build stuff.

Note that I'm not complaining about the bench....just saying it will take longer to build -- sometimes a lot longer.
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2007-04-23 - 06:21 AM Post #90
Wow! Great work geewhzz!
I can easily see this becoming the new standard RCT2 bench. IMO it's even better than Toon's, because of how you arranged the tabs and the order of the objects..

It's also nice everyone can still adjust it slightly, with minimal effort..

Thanks man!

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