Park / Europa Park World Showcase

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  • Kumba%s's Photo
    All around amazing park. IMO the strongest overall park ever. Id go on, but I did the review, you can see I gave it a 20, so you get a lot of my opinion of that. Actually, I think there is a good chance I'll add more feedback when I get a chance :)

    Congrats Hans! :mantis:
  • Cena%s's Photo
    Guys, I am gonna to this in Dutch. 




    Six Frags / Hans / RCTLegende: 

    Jou screens die je destijds showde in je topic waren slecht en matig om het zo maar te noemen, omdat de gebouwen meestal te groot waren naar mijn gevoel en details ontbraken. Echter nu ik het ingame heb gezien en ik heb bijna een uur zitten kijken tot dat ik erachter kwam dat het al over 2en in de nacht was. Moet ik echt zeggen; Van harte gefeliciteerd met deze welverdiende spotlight. Het park is misschien op sommige stukken gedateert om het zo maar te zeggen, maar dit word ruimschoots goedgemaakt door de overige dingen. Nogmaals gefeliciteerd en ik geef toe, je hebt ons flink bij de benen gehad door *kut*screens te showen in in het geheim zo'n tof park te bouwen! 

    Waarschijnlijk dat ik later nog wel uitgebreider reageer, maar als eerste reactie wou ik er toch wat hebben staan. Deze spotlight is dubbel en dwars verdient! 

  • Gwazi%s's Photo
    can't look now, in Florida. but i'm completely stoked to view it when i get home.
  • dmaxsba%s's Photo
    I really did enjoy most of this park, the only disappointment I had what the transfer of the spinning coaster to RCT2. I had hoped that it would be a complete conversion but it ended up being a Virgina Reel instead of the coaster it used to be meaning it didn't track very well around the course of the ride and required hacking in order to get 4 cars per train. < How is that done anyway?, is there a tutorial for it somewhere here at NE?

    Anyway, I have to agree with Trav, I am also on the fence when it comes to this park being a Spotlight Park, but then again, who am I to really judge such a thing. The park is large and full of surprises. Well done! :)
  • Wanted%s's Photo
    For some reason the area I love the most in this park in Antarctica.
  • Phatage%s's Photo
    You created nice atmospheres in spaces that fit within the computer screen, and these were by far the best rides I've ever seen from you (although the Troylike woodie lacked the inherent GCI compactness) but the park was both a bombardment of architecture to those walking through it and too large of a scale for the peeps of the game. I truly believe that you walked through this park as you were creating it as if you were there, at least the sections that you were obviously more inspired to build. But I don't think you did enough walking through of the park as a whole as it comes off more as a compilation of different minis pasted together. This walking through is something I've done countless times through RoB and some other parks without being both amazed and entranced in how complete of a park it is, but I couldn't think that while visiting your park. There were many subpar rides and too many sections that were uninspired (where 1 would be too many). Considering this park as separate minis then actually helps me enjoy it more, yet I shouldn't have to do that with a park. Zippo is another park that I can visit over and over again, and maybe with it, those here at NE disenfranchised with things made "back then" can relate to what a park should be. NE doesn't believe that things made years ago can compare with things made today and can only be good in an old sort of way, and that's simply wrong. And maybe people think that last sentence doesn't have much to do with this park, but really it does; I don't think there's as strong of a correlation between "outdated" sections and those that are flat out worse (what I would call uninspired) as people think.

    What I also want to talk about in this post is consistency. Not necessarily the lack of consistency of inspiration of this park as I know its hard to keep consistency through its many years in the making (only parks like RoB have done it, hmmm), but in how the accolade panel works. Why is the person who gave the highest rating, one that ends up not even being counted, the one who gets to do the writeup for the park and represent the whole site, calling this the best park ever made? In this case, Kumba is swallowed by blind infatuation, unable to see the flaws I've pointed out above and the fact that other parks don't have these flaws. I understand that somebody with a positive outlook on this park should do the writeup, but how bout somebody with a vote that counted for putting it in spotlight voting. A panelist who had their vote scratched out can comment on the park in the thread like I'm doing right now.
  • Six Frags%s's Photo
    Wow cena, thanks man! Those screens indeed were most of the times bad, and that's probably the main reason I was posting them.. Especially the Mexican section had changed tremendously since the screens.. I just would've liked to get more details in, but because of the data limit couldn't.. Glad you enjoyed it :)

    Oh, and Phatage; It has to do with opinion. You have to realize not everyone around here has the same opinion as you. Maybe kumba shouldn't have done the write-up, but in the relprep there were more comments and debate about his opinion being in the write-up.. While I kinda agree a write-up should be objective, for the park being in the voting/relprep for almost 2 months I was just glad it finally could be released and so were the admins I think.
    Every write-up author writes in a different way, and kumba chose to do it this way.

    dmaxsba; The virginia reel ride type was the only one that supported spinning and other than with the spinning mouse type it wasn't necessary to have like 1000000 images.. It was fairly easy to create that custom ride, and I didn't have any experience in it.. You can get the maximum cars on a train by clicking on rides-8 Cars per Train..

    Thanks for the replies guys! It's fun reading all different opinions about the park.

    SF
  • RCTMASTA%s's Photo
    Hey Six Frags, could you post a "trimmed down" version of that download? Like get rid of that 10MB flash intro file and a few other unnecessary files? Because that 50MB download is just IMPOSSIBLE on dial-up. (4+ hours) How about just the park file, the DATs, and the readme? I'd love to see everything, but it's just not possible on dial-up.
    Thanks a bunch!
  • posix%s's Photo
    sf, if you like to post a link like that, be aware that it will distort your download counter as it doesn't add to that.

    edit: i cannot believe how in one day the overview has been clicked almost 300 times ... i had no idea they were this popular.
  • Chrixz%s's Photo
    I'' missing this one object called: sfroto/008c180a4a4582bo, it looks really great from the overview, can't wait to see this in-game.
  • turbin3%s's Photo
    It's in the download-zip. ;)
    In a special folder, don't know it's name atm though.
  • Chrixz%s's Photo
    Yeah I saw that folder called data however this is an other object than the sfroto which is in the zip. I already installed that and I still can't open it?
  • Six Frags%s's Photo
    Yeah, you must place the SFROTO.dat (as well as SFSPIN.dat) inside of your objdata folder which you can find in your rct2 installation directory.. Those custom ride files are attached to the zip in the 'DATs' folder..

    I can send it to you by pm rctmasta?

    SF

    edit; Did you restart your game chrixz?
  • Chrixz%s's Photo
    It works thanks a bunch a will post my thoughts later.
  • olddtfan51%s's Photo
    All I can say is this park is the finest I have ever seen the detail in the park is awesome you feel as if your there. :party: :mantis:
  • Todd Lee%s's Photo
    Having only seen the overview, you've created a real gem Hans! I can really feel the atmosphere here.
  • Phatage%s's Photo

    Oh, and Phatage; It has to do with opinion. You have to realize not everyone around here has the same opinion as you. Maybe kumba shouldn't have done the write-up, but in the relprep there were more comments and debate about his opinion being in the write-up.. While I kinda agree a write-up should be objective, for the park being in the voting/relprep for almost 2 months I was just glad it finally could be released and so were the admins I think.
    Every write-up author writes in a different way, and kumba chose to do it this way.


    I think you've missed my point; I don't necessarily want my opinion of the park to match the writeup, but there's a panel for a reason and its rules should apply all the way through the accolade process, including the writeup that ends up representing the panel as a whole to the rest of the community. Maybe other people who had their votes count could have felt the same way and could have posted it on the site; I have no problem with opinions being expressed in the writeup. The argument shouldn't have been whether the writeup would be centered on his opinion but rather whether he should be doing the writeup.
  • Kumba%s's Photo
    We had some debate backstage about the review. I could have easily done a totally non-opinion related review, I do AP style all the time when doing articles. Just this a review, I feel a little opinion is okay. SF agreed and his opinion was the most important to me.

    Also I never say in the review that it's "the best park ever", Phatage. Reminds me of when DRC came out and people were trying to put new words in my lead-in :lol:
  • Phatage%s's Photo

    We had some debate backstage about the review. I could have easily done a totally non-opinion related review, I do AP style all the time when doing articles. Just this a review, I feel a little opinion is okay. SF agreed and his opinion was the most important to me.

    Also I never say in the review that it's "the best park ever", Phatage. Reminds me of when DRC came out and people were trying to put new words in my lead-in :lol:



    I think you've missed my point; I don't necessarily want my opinion of the park to match the writeup, but there's a panel for a reason and its rules should apply all the way through the accolade process, including the writeup that ends up representing the panel as a whole to the rest of the community. Maybe other people who had their votes count could have felt the same way and could have posted it on the site; I have no problem with opinions being expressed in the writeup. The argument shouldn't have been whether the writeup would be centered on his opinion but rather whether he should be doing the writeup.
  • Six Frags%s's Photo
    I don't think write-ups ever were meant to be representing the accolade panel; There are just too many different opinions and tastes around the panel (which is a good thing).
    Added to that, I just think it's impossible to write a fully objective write-up. Maybe kumba exaggerated it a bit too much, because I never before saw this much debate about a write-up.. I never thought it would be this problematic for some people if an strong opinion is noticeable in a write-up..
    I get your point that it wasn't about kumba's opinion in it, but rather kumba doing it and the fact he gave it a 20. I just think it's not that big of a deal..

    Oh, and thanks for the other nice replies guys! Means a lot to me :)

    SF