New Element - Park

Comet Offline

Nice Design

The architecture and details were good, the foliage was decent, but the layout was fucking brilliant. Great job with that, I really liked the combination of Millennium Force's overbanks with GeForce's drop and airtime

nin Offline

Nice design, I agree with Comet on the layout: it's really inspiring.

One note on the release page: I don't think the write-ups should be in first person. I know they have been, and will continue to be, but this is my opinion, so just hold tight. Park release pages are strictly about the park, yes? Then why have an opinionated description of the park/coaster?

Midnight Aurora Offline

I don't know shit about layouts, so I'll comment on what I do know. You seem to have a good idea of how to make natural and beautiful foliage ad overgrowth, but it's the same in every patch of trees in the park. Mix it up, man. It's fucking nature. Not every tree is going to be surrounded by a concentric ring of gradually smaller bushes.

I do like the colour scheme, so there's a plus.

JDP Offline

the small S bend after the last overbank almost killed it for me. other then that the design seemed very well planed out. the banked turns were done nice and the rest of the layout had a good flow. i thought the surrounding architecture and foliage was solid and gave a realistic atmosphere, well done.

this is a step up from oak creek, good job... you're getting better
-JDP

Luigi Offline

Congrats on another accolade!

The lay-out was definitely the strongest aspect of this release. The pacing was good, it had a nice flow and the elements were really nice. It was enjoyable to watch from the beginning until the ending. The queue was decent, as was the station. I only think the station's roof was just a tad too high. The supports were nice, although in some places I felt there were way too many, but this might also be because of the RCT graphics.

The surroundings were nice as well. The architecture was good and it was nice to see that this time all the buildings did have a purpose, instead of just filling up. The foliage was also a lot better than in your previous park, it gave off the perfect atmosphere.

You really have improved since Oak Creek, good job.

Liampie Offline

Coaster: pretty good! In my opinion a tad too long though... The ride gets repetitive there. Good job on the supports!

Foliage: Not bad, but again it looks like mould. Side friction track for the flowerbed was pointless and looked horrible.

Architecture: not bad, just very generic and it didn't contribute anything to the design. I disliked how all these little 2x2 buildings were scattered throughout the map, showing little thought behind it.

Cohesion: none

Park layout: could've been worse... The area around the lifthill was good.

Sorry for sounding so negative... I did enjoy it, which is why I voted 65%. Could've been 60% too. The coaster was strong enough to compensate the flaws in this, but just barely.

Congratulations and keep up the good work! And PLEASE work on your foliage!

Phatage Offline

This definitely got the point across of combining MF with EGF and it came out really nice. The support work along with the maintenance stuff (catwalks, transfer, etc.) were all well done too.

I did have two issues with the layout itself though. One was that there was never a place of rest where riders can catch their breath. In MF, this place happens on the top of those hills where there actually isn't that much airtime, and on EGF it happens on that straight section of track with the very visible trim break on it; it doesn't always have to be a slow part of the ride but something where g-forces are pretty much constant and speed isn't changing too rapidly at the moment.

Another issue was that the ride felt a little too long in terms of the sheer number of elements. I mean you have essentially kept all the elements of EGF while just adding some from MF, and while the train does maintain a good amount of momentum towards the end, it seems like it can realistically be a little too much for riders, especially with no resting moments.

I also think that putting a straight piece of track (or two depending on the train's speed at that point) at the top of bunny hills can help better symbolize track curvature, with exception to like Arrow hyper coaster bunny hills.

zburns999 Offline

Fantastic layout, man. That's for damn sure. I spent a good while watching it over and over again. Besides for the obvious Expedition G Force and Millennium Force inspirations, I also enjoyed this one because of how unpredictable the layout was. It kind of zipped back and forth and kept re-visiting itself. Sort of reminded me of Talisman from the Pueblo Canyon H2H park. Good stuff. Great pacing and some awesome elements, too.

However, I can't help but feel that this was a bit uninspired. I feel like you've found a formula that will get you an accolade so you've been sticking to it. Venture outside the box, man. You've got your own style, but in this case, I'm not sure that's a positive. It's kind of the same old song and dance over and over with the foliage in clumps and the sort of boxy/simple buildings. That one yellow-trimmed building by the station for the coaster was kick-ass, though. There was obvious inspiration there, but I'm not sure I can say the same for other parts of the park. The river boats, for instance, would be a complete nap-inducer of a ride. There's really not much going on. You could have gone all out on something like that, but it felt like you just chose not to because you knew you already had the accolade on lock.

Now, I know this is two times I've come off negative when commenting on your accolades. Take it as a compliment, though, because you have tremendous potential. I like how your new Kraken project seems to have some inspiration and direction. Keep it up with things like that and always aim to go above and beyond. One or two incredible accolades is better than a dozen forgettable ones on any day of the week. Keep it up man. Overall, I'd be more than willing to nominate this as a steel coaster of the year. I'd just like to see you do some more with the rest of the map. Keep it up!

Fisch Offline

I agree with Phatage on the layout. It's great and the inspiration is obvious but it's a little too long. The repetitiveness towards the end is what kind of kills it. Besides that it's an amazing layout! Keep up the good work!

Hex Offline

Really enjoyed this and the layout was fantastic and inspiring.

:mantis:

Maverix Offline

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Nice Design

The architecture and details were good, the foliage was decent, but the layout was fucking brilliant. Great job with that, I really liked the combination of Millennium Force's overbanks with GeForce's drop and airtime

Thanks Comet. The layout was the main focus of this (as I believe should be the focus of every design) and I'm glad you like it so much.

Nice design, I agree with Comet on the layout: it's really inspiring.

One note on the release page: I don't think the write-ups should be in first person. I know they have been, and will continue to be, but this is my opinion, so just hold tight. Park release pages are strictly about the park, yes? Then why have an opinionated description of the park/coaster?

Thanks nin! Glad you like it!

I don't know shit about layouts, so I'll comment on what I do know. You seem to have a good idea of how to make natural and beautiful foliage ad overgrowth, but it's the same in every patch of trees in the park. Mix it up, man. It's fucking nature. Not every tree is going to be surrounded by a concentric ring of gradually smaller bushes.

I do like the colour scheme, so there's a plus.

Thanks MA! Foliage is still a work in progress for me ATM as I'm trying to make it seem not so repetitive because I know it is. I've been experimenting in my more recent work so we'll see how it goes.

the small S bend after the last overbank almost killed it for me. other then that the design seemed very well planed out. the banked turns were done nice and the rest of the layout had a good flow. i thought the surrounding architecture and foliage was solid and gave a realistic atmosphere, well done.

this is a step up from oak creek, good job... you're getting better
-JDP

Thanks JDP! That s-bend is probably my least favorite part of the ride, I don't like how it had to be cramped in there, but it was the best I could do as doing diagonals didn't allow for a realistic or smooth looking buckle, like Expedition GeForce's.

Congrats on another accolade!

The lay-out was definitely the strongest aspect of this release. The pacing was good, it had a nice flow and the elements were really nice. It was enjoyable to watch from the beginning until the ending. The queue was decent, as was the station. I only think the station's roof was just a tad too high. The supports were nice, although in some places I felt there were way too many, but this might also be because of the RCT graphics.

The surroundings were nice as well. The architecture was good and it was nice to see that this time all the buildings did have a purpose, instead of just filling up. The foliage was also a lot better than in your previous park, it gave off the perfect atmosphere.

You really have improved since Oak Creek, good job.

Glad you like it Luigi! I was trying to make each building have a purpose like you said and I think I did that a lot better than OPC.

Coaster: pretty good! In my opinion a tad too long though... The ride gets repetitive there. Good job on the supports!

Foliage: Not bad, but again it looks like mould. Side friction track for the flowerbed was pointless and looked horrible.

Architecture: not bad, just very generic and it didn't contribute anything to the design. I disliked how all these little 2x2 buildings were scattered throughout the map, showing little thought behind it.

Cohesion: none

Park layout: could've been worse... The area around the lifthill was good.

Sorry for sounding so negative... I did enjoy it, which is why I voted 65%. Could've been 60% too. The coaster was strong enough to compensate the flaws in this, but just barely.

Congratulations and keep up the good work! And PLEASE work on your foliage!

Thanks Liampie! I kinda see what you mean about the layout being repetitive but I don't think there was much I could do at the end without dragging it out. The foliage, as I said to MA, is a work in progress. It's not nearly up to your standards so any criticism is appreciated

The architecture was meant to be purposeful and a bit sparse as I didn't want the area to be to crowded but I think I may have done that too well and it's something I'll take into consideration in the future. Cohesion... yeah... and I tried to have the park layout work around the coaster so that guest could get a good view of the ride. Thanks for all the advice!

This definitely got the point across of combining MF with EGF and it came out really nice. The support work along with the maintenance stuff (catwalks, transfer, etc.) were all well done too.

I did have two issues with the layout itself though. One was that there was never a place of rest where riders can catch their breath. In MF, this place happens on the top of those hills where there actually isn't that much airtime, and on EGF it happens on that straight section of track with the very visible trim break on it; it doesn't always have to be a slow part of the ride but something where g-forces are pretty much constant and speed isn't changing too rapidly at the moment.

Another issue was that the ride felt a little too long in terms of the sheer number of elements. I mean you have essentially kept all the elements of EGF while just adding some from MF, and while the train does maintain a good amount of momentum towards the end, it seems like it can realistically be a little too much for riders, especially with no resting moments.

I also think that putting a straight piece of track (or two depending on the train's speed at that point) at the top of bunny hills can help better symbolize track curvature, with exception to like Arrow hyper coaster bunny hills.

Thanks Phatage! I know what you're talking about with there not being a place for the riders to 'rest' but that was the point, that it would be thrills from start to end. The thing I don't like about Millie is those two hills crossing to and from the island have almost no airtime and that is sort of a buzzkill for me. I realize it may not be 'suitable for all guests' but it was meant to be for thrill seekers. As far as it being to long/ repetitive, see what I said to Liampie.

Fantastic layout, man. That's for damn sure. I spent a good while watching it over and over again. Besides for the obvious Expedition G Force and Millennium Force inspirations, I also enjoyed this one because of how unpredictable the layout was. It kind of zipped back and forth and kept re-visiting itself. Sort of reminded me of Talisman from the Pueblo Canyon H2H park. Good stuff. Great pacing and some awesome elements, too.

However, I can't help but feel that this was a bit uninspired. I feel like you've found a formula that will get you an accolade so you've been sticking to it. Venture outside the box, man. You've got your own style, but in this case, I'm not sure that's a positive. It's kind of the same old song and dance over and over with the foliage in clumps and the sort of boxy/simple buildings. That one yellow-trimmed building by the station for the coaster was kick-ass, though. There was obvious inspiration there, but I'm not sure I can say the same for other parts of the park. The river boats, for instance, would be a complete nap-inducer of a ride. There's really not much going on. You could have gone all out on something like that, but it felt like you just chose not to because you knew you already had the accolade on lock.

Now, I know this is two times I've come off negative when commenting on your accolades. Take it as a compliment, though, because you have tremendous potential. I like how your new Kraken project seems to have some inspiration and direction. Keep it up with things like that and always aim to go above and beyond. One or two incredible accolades is better than a dozen forgettable ones on any day of the week. Keep it up man. Overall, I'd be more than willing to nominate this as a steel coaster of the year. I'd just like to see you do some more with the rest of the map. Keep it up!

Thanks burns! Don't worry, I'd rather have two comments of 'coming off negative' and giving me good advice for my next project than ten comments saying 'nice!' I am trying to mix it up a bit with future projects and this was an 'attempt' at that but it turned into my same old stuff I guess. Thanks for the advice though!!

I agree with Phatage on the layout. It's great and the inspiration is obvious but it's a little too long. The repetitiveness towards the end is what kind of kills it. Besides that it's an amazing layout! Keep up the good work!

Thanks Fisch! As I've said before I didn't think there was any other way to finish the layout without dragging it out to much but it's something I'll keep it in mind in the future.

Really enjoyed this and the layout was fantastic and inspiring.

Thanks man!

chorkiel Offline

darn,darn,darn!
I love this !

It's a tad simple but what there is, is amazing !
congratz!

tdub96 Offline

I'm gonna start off by saying that I pretty much agree with everyone above me. It is very evident that this is Expedition GeForce + Millennium Force. That certaintly isnt a bad thing at all. The layout flowed really nicely, and it was cool to see a mashup of two of Intamin's best rides.

The surroundings fit well, but I think foliage is still the weakest point of your game. Even then, its not that bad at all. The coaster and its surroundings gave off the "section of a park" feel, and thats how it should be when you submit a realistic design.

Congrats man! I think this was much stronger than how it appears to barely have won the accolade. 75% from me, and thanks to JDP for saving this one.

JDP	80%
BelgianGuy	70%
robbie92	70%
Roomie	70%
That Guy	70%
Levis	65%
Liampie	65%
Metropole	65%
prodigy	65%
wheres_walto	65%
Wicksteed	65%
geewhzz	60%
Loopy	60%
posix	60%
turbin3	60%
65.38%

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