Ask the Experts / scenery tab limit? Edit: New scenery tabs available

  • Arjan v l%s's Photo
    I've managed to create a scenerytab. :mantis:
    But there are some strange issues with it.
    For some reason the 146 rooves i selected for this tab don't all show in scenariomaker, the rest is placed under the questionmark. But if i use parkdat to change it with another tab in my park, then there are more rooves in it than in scenariomaker.
    This puzzles me.

    Anybody have a clue?
  • MikaRCT2%s's Photo
    Maybe because of the total object limit?
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo

    Maybe because of the total object limit?


    No , that's not it, i've deselected everything before i selected my new themegroup for testing.
    Some rooves are placed in there ,others in the ? tab.
    Thanks for your response though. :)
  • Camcorder22%s's Photo
    Jesus dick what do you need all those roofs for?
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo
    :lol:

    I know what you mean.
    No , i don't need them all in one park ,but it will be handy for usage in several parks and maybe for some users around here, since you don't have to look for a tab that contains your personal selection of rooves, i've put all the rooves i had in there except for the full tile small scenery rooves (they are useless).
  • Xtreme97%s's Photo
    146 objects is probably too much for a single scenery tab. I suggest either reducing the number of rooves in the tab or creating multiple tabs for them.
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo

    146 objects is probably too much for a single scenery tab. I suggest either reducing the number of rooves in the tab or creating multiple tabs for them.


    I thought there was no limit, but probably there is.
    I started to create this tab ,because there where to many items under my questionmark tab, so a bunch of objects was missing.
    Initially i thought it would be a good idea to create tabs that includes everything available for it, so you don't have to keep switching scenery tabs to include all your stuff. This tab has solved many problems for me already ,it replaced the two tabs of rooves i had (Sixfrags rooves and MG rooves) . I'm working on a foilage tab now ,for all bushes and flowers and some trees that are used frequently around here and don't have a suitable tab for it to include them all ,since i also have two foilage/trees tabs that still don't include everything ,since the rest is under the ? tab :'( . I really got tired of this ,so i started working on new tabs ,that are userfriendly for everyone.
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo
    Sorry for bumping this topic, but i've got some news.

    My current rooftab (AVLROOF1) is faulty, you can replace it by the fixed version.
    If you're working with datmaker, then you would probably like to know that the limit is 128 dats for a scenerytab. I've finally figured that out. AVLROOF1 contains 144 rooves, that's why it's not functioning properly in scenariomaker, if you have used parkdat to put it in your park, then don't worry, it doesn't cause an errortrapper.

    Here is the fixed version of my rooftab wich contains a selection of 127 rooves.

    [attachment=13423:AVL-RF1F.DAT]

    I've also had the spires and domes in my old rooftab, but i made a new one that contains big arches ,spires ,domes ,steps and large scenery blocks (the round ones), i will attach that one as well.

    [attachment=13424:AVL-ARS1.DAT]

    Enjoy these scenerygroups, i've made them to solve many problems.
    They are made universal ,for everybody's taste. ;)
  • Six Frags%s's Photo

    If you're working with datmaker, then you would probably like to know that the limit is 128 dats for a scenerytab.

    That's a great fact to know!
    Thanks for the tabs, they are really useful. It's a lot of work but having all (good) objects in tabs is really worth it.. I'll take a look at them/use them when I'll play rct2 again but don't know when that'll be. Good work Arjan.
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo
    You're welcome, i'm happy you like my contribution in this. :)
    I hope you like them, they will be a good solution for a cluttered up ? mark tab.

    If there's need for more ,then i'll post them ,i've allready made some more tabs. ;)

    Edit: Now you probably know why i was asking for your thatch roofpieces. :p
  • Six Frags%s's Photo
    Yeah, it would be nice to have all the 'themes' as tabs, like;
    -Foliage
    -Walls/windows
    -Fences
    -Path objects
    -Base blocks
    -Supports
    -Decorative scenery
    -Theming objects
    -Misc

    I had plans for making this huge workbench project with all commonly used objects in there and then let the community add more (kinda like gee did a while back), but as I lost interest in rct2 I don't think I'll ever complete it..

    I can send you the stuff I did with my own tabs, as some stuff is unreleased, and then maybe you can pick it up from there?
  • Arjan v l%s's Photo
    That might be a good idea. :nod:

    Let me tell you how i've allready done some tabs:

    Arches-steps-spires/domes-LS rounded blocks : 56 items

    Baseblocks(no steps since it's too full) : 126 items

    Fire-creepy items(dead tree's ,ghosts etc.): 128 items
    (Btw. there is AE haunted mansion scenery in there and i don't know if you have it also)

    Pathblocks (LS and SS)-benches-lights-bins (LS and SS)-peeps : 125 items

    Water-rocks-ruins : 54 items

    Foilage (wich is allready out there from my last park) Maybe i'll update that one, since they don't contain the trees from Geewhzz tab. More flowers and the trees that didn't have a tab of their own. :97 items

    Rooftab : 127 items

    Windows-doors-glass rooves : 118 items

    This is what i created so far, and i can tell you it's a bitch to do this, but you probably allready know. ;)

    I'll add these tabs btw. ,so you can check them out.

    [attachment=13425:AVL-BB1.DAT] Baseblocks

    [attachment=13426:AVL-FC1.DAT] Fire-creepy items

    [attachment=13427:AVLFOIL1.DAT] You probably allready have this dat (foilage).

    [attachment=13428:AVL-P-B1.DAT] Paths-benches-peeps

    [attachment=13429:AVL-WDG1.DAT] Windows-doors-glass rooves

    [attachment=13430:AVL-WR1.DAT] Water-rock-ruins

    I'll probably have an awkward taste for items, but like i said ,i want to make this userfriendly, that's why they contain so many items'. My reason for it is that i'll never have to use other tabs anymore, no matter what theme i'll choose, and others also don't have to keep searching for the right tab that contains their personal selection, just use my tabs. :D

    But please send my your entire objdata list too ,mine is not so extensive (+- 3400 dats)
    I'll hear from you.

    Edit: I forgot, these files belong to the fire-creepy items tab, wich i converted from TT or WW .not sure:

    [attachment=13431:AVLcan.DAT]

    [attachment=13433:AVLscor1.DAT]

    [attachment=13434:AVLscor2.DAT]

    [attachment=13435:AVLspid.DAT]

    [attachment=13432:AVL-lts.DAT]

    That's it.

    Anybody feel free to download if you want it.

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