Head-2-Head-X / Head-2-Head-X: Guess The Builder
- 29-April 24
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Scoop Offline
You can just guess every player on the team and technically end up correct minus the bonus points. You should get -1 if you have more wrong than right.
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Xtreme97 Offline
Correct guesses should be worth as many points as the players are worth! Otherwise it might be worthwhile to just check as many lowest ranking players as you can each round, and you might outscore people who correctly deduce top players simply through chance!
I think this makes sense, but kind of weights the higher point players too much perhaps. Else you could pick the 5 and 4 pointers every round and pick up some points inevitably. Would getting that many points outweigh the advantage of getting multiple 1-pointers correct by just voting lower point players? It's an interesting one, will see tomorrow if the point allocations should switch up, it's still early enough.
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Sulakke Offline
Minus 1 point for every selected player that didn't work on the park would be a solution that is more fair I think.
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Scoop Offline
That doesn't make much sense since a correct player is 1 point, you'd have a higher percentage of people on average losing points rather than gaining any.
Minus 1 point for every selected player that didn't work on the park would be a solution that is more fair I think.
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Xtreme97 Offline
Having spoken with Liam, we think having a cap of 4 players per park is a middle ground. That way you can't just pick the bottom 6-7 players on each team every round for guaranteed points, you'll have to choose the mostly likely people you think built.
Round 1 will remain with the current rules for all match-ups as we're halfway through already. The rules will be updated accordingly for Round 2 onwards and could be adjusted until then based on response - if you guess 4 players correct but 5 or more players built on the park, you will still get the bonus points for all your choices being correct. This won't apply to people who guess only 2 or 3 players however.
In the meantime, R1M2 is now available for guessing:
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Xtreme97 Offline
Will post the full results for Round 1 at the same time (because I don't have time to do the R1M1 results right now lol).
Anyway, R1M3 is now up!
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Xtreme97 Offline
Time for the first Standings Updates and match results!
First up, R1M1:
Radio Park Tbilisi: the top guess here was alex by a wide margin, with 78.3% of players correctly guessing his involvement which comes as no surprise, having carved out a distinct style. Nearly 40% were correct in guessing roygbiv while only a few guessed Ulvenwood. Liampie was the largest outlier with 39.1% believing he was on the park with alex.
The Royal Institute for Extradorindary Biota: Jene was the overwhelming guess here with almost 70% of players choosing him. I think his recent spotlight may have had a hand in this as he showcased some very nice manicured landscaping, despite not being involved in this map. The next most guessed players were AJ- (43.5%) and Tolsimir (34.8%), so it's not a total washout. Steve was only guessed by ~11% of people however despite his larger share on the park - was the lack of Steve Trees a red herring perhaps?
Next we have R1M2:
Lostileth: The top guesses here were quite accurate, with over 70% correctly guessing ottersalad and ~40% guessing myself. CC9 (32.4%) was the third most guessed, with Kumba, Terry and Congoy tying for fourth (26.5%). Levis was low on the count - no doubt a more hacky park may yield more accuracy for him!
Troubadours et Baladins: This park saw the most guessed single player of all, with close to 90% of people correctly putting Babar Tapie down. Following Babar is MK98 with nearly half of players guessing correctly. RWE and Six Frags are close behind, perhaps indicating the European setting and detail-packed style being influential. Lurker (8.6%) and Louis! (5.7%) were in fewer guesses however.
Last up, R1M3:
Constellations: This park had quite a variety of players submitted, with 7 names appearing in at least a quarter of guesses. Carrying the lead is J K, who shows up in almost 60%, while Jens J. appear in the second most number of ballots. The next group are fairly even, with mamarillas, Iretont, Robdedede, Hex and Camcorder22 all being quite spread out among guesses, though all of them were incorrect. Deanosrs appears in ~20%, likely thanks to the plugin talk (though not a direct indicator of involvement, much like object making), and SSSammy and CHE only show up in 2 ballots each sadly!
Hell: Josh was accurately guessed in over half of the entries and Mulpje comes in second with over 40%, which should yield points for many. Ethan, Gustav and Hobeon were even among the guesses but again all wrong (though I wouldn't have blamed anyone for guessing Ethan, seems very much in his wheelhouse.) The final correct builder, Maverix, was less accurately guessed and only appeared in 3 ballots.
Standings Update: Round 1
After the conclusion of Round 1 we have the first points totals in, and chorkiel is the first leader with 12 points. Following up close behind are Scoop, dr dirt, Mr. Brightside, JK, Kumba and AVC all tied with 9 points. It'll be a close race in Round 2 and plenty of points to catch up to the leaders! None of the guesses for this round were totally accurate however. Perhaps the switch-up in the rules with regards to player point allocations will make it harder as people aim to bet on more names than necessary to get as good a chance as possible to gain a couple of points?
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Xtreme97 Offline
Round 2 has begun, and so begins a new round of Guess The Builder! A slight rule update for round 2 onwards:
There is now a cap of 4 players per guess on each park. This is to prevent deliberately loading your guess with as many low-point players as possible in order to get guaranteed points.
With regard to the bonus point rule, if you guess 4 players correct but 5 or more players built on the park, you will still get the bonus points for all your choices being correct.
The first match-up is now live:
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Xtreme97 Offline
Guess the builder for Round 2 Match 2 is now up! Results for match 1 will be posted at the end of the round and there are a lot of strong guesses this time round..
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Xtreme97 Offline
With round 2 complete, it's time for another update!
R2M1:
Sambhava's Rest: This round saw a lot of concentrated and more accurate guess-work than Round 1. With LHC, Jens J. and Hex were both guessed correctly by over half, with FK coming in third, showing just how recognisable the landscaping and architectural styles of the map are. Overall a very strong set of guesses, with Robdedede tripping a few people up.
Cirque Macabre: An interesting set of guesses here, with barnNID being the most guessed builder despite not being on the park at all. Six Frags is very close behind with almost 60% guessing him, however, so still quite a good showing. RWE, BelgianGuy and Babar Tapie were also picked up by a good chunk of correct guesses, but Coasterbill proved to be another hurdle.
R2M2:
Castello Altovento: A strong majority of 69% correctly guessed Jene on the map as a main builder. The next few guesses were less accurate though, with Bubbsy, WhosLeon, AVC, Suomot and spacek showing up in a number of guesses. 94SupremePosse was picked by about a third of guesses, and Mr.Brightside and Steve showed up in fewer guesses still.
Valley of the Kings: Another strong showing with again 69% of people guessing a lead builder with dr dirt. Gustav Goblin shows up second in half of the guesses, so an overall good score for many. Scoop and Hobeon were less guessed but still decently so.
R2M3:
Naam Chalong Suu Oom: Perhaps the most concentrated sets of guesses of the contest so far, and it wouldn't surprise me if it stays that way for the rest. A very clear trio of DKMP builders with good chemistry mean that the main 3 builders ballpitwarrior, Bluetiful_Monday and Congoy show up in over 70% of guesses. Interestingly, a lot of people also guessed Kumba as a builder. Perhaps a bit of a prediction of a H2H veteran and team captain lending his expertise to rookie builders? Regardless, it does mean that none of the guesses here got bonus scores, as bigshootergill shows up in just one guess, likely down to a small 4% share.
Wawel Castle: Another very confident set of guesses here with Liampie showing up in three-quarters of them, and trav in over half and Thethrillman in almost 40%. As lead builder it was no doubt pretty easy to see Liam in the euro-realism townscape theme, and interestingly there were also a number of votes for MorganFan and ultro, perhaps as supporting guesses.
Standings Update: Round 2
After a very confident round, many people have added a dozen or more points to their totals and the standings see some shifts. AVC shoots up to first with 26 points (aided by two perfect guesses), trailed by Gustav close behind on 23 and In:Cities and Lilith who tie for third with 21 points. Seven people managed to grab a bonus point this round with perfect guesses, mostly coming from R2M1. Another fun tidbit to add is that thirteen people guessed the same combination of Kumba, ballpitwarrior, Bluetiful_Monday and Congoy in R2M3. -
Liampie Offline
Guess what? Round 3 Match 1 is now ready for guessing!
R3M1: Dambusters vs Soda Jerks
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Liampie Offline
R3M1
The main builder on The Sailor seemed pretty obvious to the vast majority of guessers. The guesses on who was the secondary builder were more divided. Over half the guessers was certain of Cocoa, but it was actually Recurious, who to be fair also received a lot of votes, and ultro was also suspected by more than a third. Less obvious were roygbiv, and completely unexpected was Liampie, who none of the 31 guesses included.
Wheres_walto was an easy guess on Yucca Desert Park. The community was not too convinced of anyone else, with guesses all over the place. Ethan had a reasonable amount of votes, but perhaps this was more due to the expection of him building than anything in the actual park. Perhaps the expectation to have built also motivated people to vote on the lower ranked players such as Sensual and Gamma... While it was actually dr dirt and Maverix who contributed.
Points to be calculated at a later time.
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