Park / Merlinwood
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03-January 05
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Honestly, I don't like making this decision, but I feel it has to be done, because the rule was written in ink. I mean, earlier on when we had that whole parkmaker replacement confusion, I went back and consulted the rulebook and redid things according to the book. It meant that the IIIcons didn't get Voodoo anymore, but it was the decision that was correct based on the rules.
If it didn't say that a park gets DQ'ed if someone puts their name in it, we'd have a better argument, but for me, the law is clear on the matter. Yes, it's harsh. Yes, it sucks because it turned a win into a loss. But I'm going by what was set down before me. You can bring up last year, but I wasn't in charge last year.
The only argument with some merit is the "people blurting out the parkmakers of other H2H parks" deal. While I can't really do anything for Weeks 1 and 2, since there was nothing written, I will ask again that you don't name names in future matchups until the parkmakers are revealed.
In fact, I have a proposition to make to that. I'd like your opinion of this: if a person reveals the parkmaker of a park (be it a park his team made or not), he will cost his team ten votes for that week's matchup (if they have one that week) or for the following week's matchup (in the case that his team is off on the week he blabs). If he is not an H2H player, then he gets a one week ban.
This of course, would be a clear way to deter this, but keep in mind that there is also some gray area. What if someone says "this looks like [insert parkmaker]'s work!" Does that count as "revealing the identity?" Or what if someone says "this is clearly Posix" when it's not? So of course, then the rules would have to be clear as to that, and so you can initiate a snowball theory about how precise the rule has to be. After a while, of course, it would get absurd, and it would be better off not to have the rule at all.
So I ask you whether or not I should add the above bolded rule proposal to the H2H rules. If you people really think the anonymity protection is that important, I'm more than willing to implement that rule starting Week 3. If worst comes to worst, just don't say any names at all when commenting (unless the parkmaker is obviously not even on that team i.e. "This looks like Mala's stuff." would be obviously ok because he doesn't even play H2H. Or saying the Cane's entry looks like a Vehemence player's stuff would be ok too.)
One question for yyo and gir.
When I opened your park I noticed that over by the custom Top Spin, at the edge of the map, part of the map was under that part of the map. Is this like a zero clearance glitch or what is it? It looked rather strange Imo.
I'd like to implement the rule, although there would be a massive grey area, and it would only leave people feeling hard done by. What do you say to just leaving it, and trusting people to keep their mouths shut, now they know about it? Post a small thing at the top of the main page, just in case people miss this thread.
It's a shame about the DQ, because Merlinwood was superior, but it sets a precedent. Otherwise people could continue to give away who made their parks without much of a setback.
the rules are good as they are.
guessing who made the parks was always a fun thing. it's kind of sad that the parks need to be anonymous due to sympathy or antipathy.
i say just warn people not to name anyone, as you did. if they do you can't help. they're ruining their own fun.
chapel, why would you not check your team's parks before submission anyway?
And it is fun to guess who made what... if it wasn't allowed, I'd just be afraid someone on my team would break the rule, so I'm very against it...
And posix, I think I may answer for chapel. I sent the park directly to Corkscrewed. We were unaware that the problem existed. It's not like we sent it in with yyo's name on it purposely. I guess in some ways it's my fault for not being patient enough to check all the banners.
And I don't understand why people are flaunting their names in the parks in the first place?....other than for organization purposes during construction I see no benefit in running that risk at all.