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  • Metropole%s's Photo
    I know what aquatica is referring to etc. but it just doesn't seem like a word that should go with the nemesis title. It needs to be something more aggressive, more in your face perhaps. Also, I don't find Aquatica to be the right kind of word to use. An inferno is a huge flurry of fire. What exactly is an Aquatica, I get the reference to water, but it isn't something you can picture. It just doesn't work for me, its very hard to explain why. For the record, I don't have a problem with the concept of having a Water Nemesis ride.

    Another note, Nemesis Inferno has nothing to do with a monster.

    No, Tussaud's arent the master of theming, and neither are their coasters the best themed in the world. But (especially their older stuff) has a certain finesse about it that makes it Tussauds and they have a great way of theming...without it actually being theming. Nemesis is a classic example, there aren't many "theming" items so to speak, apart from the fantastic station and blood river, but the way it's built into the landscape, the way the plants seem to crawl everywhere but there are some really cool harsh rock faces just puts the ride in a perfect setting.

    Nemesis inferno has quite a few actual theming pieces, including the awesome volcano station, the chopped wood painted red and orange to give a lava effect, the lighting and smoke effect in the pre-lift tunnel and the geysers by the Vertical Loop.

    Anyway, its not that your coaster lacks in theming as such, but it lacks in interest. There are a few landscaped bits etc. but it just lacks atmosphere.

    Some pics of Tussauds big coaster theming:

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    One other thing I would suggest would be to have more areas of path/queue area that have views of the ride. At the moment, the guests can only really see the pre-drop, top of lift and cobra roll.
  • Fatha'%s's Photo
    SINCE you want to get into a pissing match, let me show you what you SHOULD see in these screens, other than "bushes blah blah."

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    The setup. The coaster wrapping around the entrance, flowing effortlessly with the landscape, excellent queue placement and interaction with the ride.

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    A "few" objects? The whole fucking station is an alien creature. And moreover, check out how rugged that picture looks, it fits with the wasteland theme perfectly. You should try and actually go for half the look that Nemesis gives and youd have a half decent park.

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    Sure, it is bushes and rides. But there is also a blood river flowing under, and the coaster hopping in and out of the canyon, just coming into view enough to bystanders can see it briefly. Its quite ingenious, and im sorry you don't see it :idea:

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    Ride placement vs Landscape placement, brilliantly done here. The coaster interacts so nicely with its environment its ridiculous.

    Let's try Nemesis:Inferno.
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    Well, you obviously can't see a damn thing, because AT LEAST Nemesis Inferno has a somewhat relevant theme, unlike yours which is a water monster that comes out of a nice looking house....great job there.


    In case you missed it, it's water theme going on, and I see now that I have to explain my logic behind Nemesis:Aquatica (which aquatica BTW, isn't a nonsense word I made up...check out Menthe Aquatica, more commonly known as Watermint...huh...there are numerous other references to the word I can bring up if you'd care to argue some more). This is what I gathered from the Nemesis/Tussauds invert trend. First came Nemesis, an alien creature that ravaged Alton Towers landscape into a near wasteland. Then came Nemesis:Inferno, a similar alien creature that devastated Thorpe Park with its fiery rage. Hmm...well fire is one of the four natural elements, why not bring up another? Water, the perfect element to drown the peace of yet another park. Now, look at the names of each attraction, the name of the area of the park, the use of water throughout the interaction of the rides, the color scheme (rides, flowers, etc.)...please tell me I'm not insane by at least having those details included. Keep in mind too that you haven't fully seen all of those details...namely several waterfalls, lakes, rivers, creeks throughout the area. Like I said, I'll work on it to mix things up more.


    Oh goodness, now I get it! NOT! A water theme? Thats laughable, please show me ONE thing that indicates your rollercoaster is a water monster. ONE! No, don't say "OHHHHH it flies over a river"....no. Your monster is houses inside a fucking white house. And a water monster infers your mosnter lives in water....not on a mountainside. Moreover, what is the monster doing to the area? Saying high while flying by the people? Your theming infer a paradise, not a wasteland. If Tussauds made a Nemesis 3 and did what you did, they would be shot. Thats absurd, even SIX FLAGS is not that ridiculously stupid.

    All I ask from you in your comments are to give me an idea of what you think would make it fit the part better, not "This looks nothing like Tussauds" and stop there. I'm not saying to build this for me, but give me suggestions/insights about how you see something as Tussauds. RCTFAN's comment "# Most Tussaud's buildings have basic shapes but lots of detail," fits perfectly into what I expect as feedback. This, "what you have is closer to a bad re-incarnation of a Six Flags park than a Tussauds park," does nothing for me. If that's all you have to offer me, then I wholeheartedly suggest that you don't waste your time looking here.


    LOL.
    I don't build the park for u, you do that.
  • coasterfrk%s's Photo
    Thank you...that's exactly what I was looking for. Too bad I had to piss you off as much as you pissed me off to get a decent critique on how to better understand where I went wrong. Nice doing business with you. Hopefully next time, it won't be such an ordeal. :)
  • Leonardofury%s's Photo
    If you want the full Nemesis story, you can find it mixed in with the queue line music here. This used to be played in the queue and explains the background behind the original Nemesis. I'm not quite sure about Inferno's story, you may have to hunt that down yourself.
  • RCTFAN%s's Photo
    I think metro and Fatha pretty much summed it up.
  • tracidEdge%s's Photo
    if you can't handle criticism don't advertise
  • ][ntamin22%s's Photo
    incidentally, i think the house is more of a beige.
  • artist%s's Photo
    Ok

    As this is meant to be a water themed area change alot of the buidling make them have water interacting with them, also if you HAVE to keep the nemesis ride themed to water maybe lighten the colours a bit. The thing is you should have stuff like whirlpools,near missing foutains, drops downs waterfalls that sort of thing if your serious about the water theme. But tbh i think the water theme for a nemesis ride is pretty poor. Maybe rethink.

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