RCT Discussion / Knockout: RCT2 Designs Group B

9 - Arch Angel
2 - BiZaRrO!
3 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park +1
7 - Canyoneer
5 - Castle Howard
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python +1
5 - Firebird
5 - Fright Nights
1 - Hurricane
6 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
1 - Lucifer's Angels -1
3 - Nature's Fury
1 - Outlaw -1
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter
2 - Solaris -1
2 - Tolan 

8 - Arch Angel -1
2 - BiZaRrO!
3 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park 
7 - Canyoneer
6 - Castle Howard +1
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
5 - Firebird
6 - Fright Nights +1
1 - Hurricane
6 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
3 - Nature's Fury
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter
2 - Solaris 
2 - Tolan 

 

0 - Outlaw -1

0 - Lucifer's Angels -1

8 - Arch Angel
1 - BiZaRrO! -1
3 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park
8 - Canyoneer +1
7 - Castle Howard +1
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python
5 - Firebird
6 - Fright Nights
6 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
3 - Nature's Fury
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter
2 - Solaris
1 - Tolan -1

0 - Hurricane -1

I like the high pace.

9 - Arch Angel +1
1 - BiZaRrO! 
3 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park
7 - Canyoneer -1
7 - Castle Howard
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python
5 - Firebird
6 - Fright Nights
6 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
3 - Nature's Fury
6 - Silverstarr +1
6 - Six Shooter
1 - Solaris -1

 

 

0 - Tolan -1

 

 

I can't understand the love for Canyoneer. It's definitely not on the level of Kumba or DVH/Python, nevermind Arch Angel. 

9 - Arch Angel 
2 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park -1
7 - Canyoneer 
7 - Castle Howard
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python
5 - Firebird
6 - Fright Nights
7 - Kumba +1
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
2 - Nature's Fury -1
6 - Silverstarr 
6 - Six Shooter 
2 - Solaris +1

 

0 - BiZaRrO! -1

 

Can we redo Group A like this? Could give different results as I think this is a lot quicker pace and thus giving better results.

Damnit

10 - Arch Angel +1

2 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park
6 - Canyoneer -1
7 - Castle Howard
8 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python +1
6 - Firebird -1
6 - Fright Nights
7 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
1 - Nature's Fury -1
6 - Silverstarr 
6 - Six Shooter 
2 - Solaris

10 - Arch Angel

1 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park -1
7 - Canyoneer +1
7 - Castle Howard
9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python +1
6 - Firebird
6 - Fright Nights
7 - Kumba
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
6 - Silverstarr 
5 - Six Shooter  -1
2 - Solaris

 

0 - Nature's Fury -1

 

Love Nature's Fury, but its time has come.

10 - Arch Angel

7 - Canyoneer 
7 - Castle Howard
9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
5 - Firebird -1
7 - Fright Nights +1
8 - Kumba +1
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires
6 - Silverstarr 
5 - Six Shooter  
1 - Solaris -1

 

0 - Calico Canyon Adventure Park -1

11 - Arch Angel +1

7 - Canyoneer 
6 - Castle Howard -1
9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
4 - Firebird -1
7 - Fright Nights
8 - Kumba
7 - Les Trois Mousquetaires +1
6 - Silverstarr 
5 - Six Shooter  

 

 

0 - Solaris -1

11 - Arch Angel

9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python

8 - Kumba

7 - Les Trois Mousquetaires

7 - Fright Nights

7 - Silverstarr +1

6 - Canyoneer -1

5 - Six Shooter

5 - Castle Howard -1
5 - Firebird +1

not sure why some larger parks are scored higher, if the "additive" tiles are mostly empty (Canyoneer, Castle Howard) i might agree they are more atmospheric but i feel the ones i gave a minor +1 just have an edge.

11 - Arch Angel
9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python
9 - Kumba +1
6 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
7 - Fright Nights 
7 - Silverstarr 

6 - Six Shooter +1
5 - Canyoneer -1
5 - Castle Howard 
4 - Firebird -1

11 - Arch Angel
9 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python
10 - Kumba +1
5 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
7 - Fright Nights 
7 - Silverstarr 
5 - Six Shooter -1
6 - Canyoneer +1
5 - Castle Howard 
3 - Firebird -1

I don't think Canyoneer and Castle Howard are still there just because of their size. I don't think the size plays a roll at all. Castle Howard started a revolution. Canyoneer still has the best foliage and landscsping in any park ever, with a perfect and intetesting coaster that is realistic too. Canyoneer lacks theming, but otherwise ticks all the boxes.

Six Shooter is a design thats surviving due to quantity though. Six tracks, it's a gimmick. The RCT is not very remarkable at all, it wouldn't have won design if it wasn't for the gimick. Trois Mousqetaires is a similar dueler, but with much better looks and actual theming and surroundings too. It should not go out before Six Shooter.

11 - Arch Angel 
8 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python -1
11 - Kumba +1 
4 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
7 - Fright Nights
7 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter +1
6 - Canyoneer 
5 - Castle Howard
2 - Firebird -1

11 - Arch Angel 
8 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
11 - Kumba 
3 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
8 - Fright Nights +1
6 - Silverstarr -1
6 - Six Shooter 
7 - Canyoneer +1
5 - Castle Howard
1 - Firebird -1

11 - Arch Angel
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python -1
12 - Kumba +1
2 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
8 - Fright Nights 
5 - Silverstarr -1
7 - Six Shooter +1
7 - Canyoneer 
5 - Castle Howard

0 - Firebird -1

11 - Arch Angel 
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
13 - Kumba +1
1 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
8 - Fright Nights
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter -1

8 - Canyoneer +1
4 - Castle Howard -1

12 - Arch Angel +1
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
12 - Kumba -1
2 - Les Trois Mousquetaires +1
7 - Fright Nights -1
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter

8 - Canyoneer
3 - Castle Howard -1

12 - Arch Angel 
7 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python 
12 - Kumba 
1 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
8 - Fright Nights +1
5 - Silverstarr -1
7 - Six Shooter +1

8 - Canyoneer
2 - Castle Howard -1

12 - Arch Angel 
8 - De Vliegende Hollander/Python +1
12 - Kumba 
0 - Les Trois Mousquetaires -1
8 - Fright Nights
5 - Silverstarr
6 - Six Shooter -1

9 - Canyoneer +1
1 - Castle Howard -1