General Chat / Bertuzzi's cheap shot on Steve Moore

I'm sure most of you saw the incredibly brutal hit Canuck's Todd Bertuzzi laid on Av's Steve Moore that lacerated his face and fractured his neck. Bertuzzi has been suspended for the rest of the season including the playoffs. Me being from Colorado and a Avalanche fan thought this was the most violent act in sports since Tyson almost bit off Holyfield's ear. It makes me sick. True, hockey is naturally a violent sport, but I think the NHL really needs to crack down on players who take shots like this. I feel Bertuzzi should be charged with felony assault and banned from the NHL indefinitely for his actions.

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What are your thoughts on this incident???

Me being from Colorado and a Avalanche fan thought this was the most violent act in sports since Tyson almost bit off Holyfield's ear.

Having said that, I will now disregard your entire opinion since it is biased.
It is not one of the most violent acts in sports. Far from it.
The hit was vicious and brutal. Bertuzzi deserves to be out for the rest of the season and playoffs. But to say his career status needs to be re-evaluated at the start of next season is absolutely idiotic.
I've seen some news reports from Denver, and they are full of shit. The american media has blown the whole matter out of proportion. If it had happened between 2 canadian teams, there would be half as much coverage.
It makes me quite mad really.

Having said that, I will now disregard your entire opinion since it is biased.
It is not one of the most violent acts in sports. Far from it.
The hit was vicious and brutal. Bertuzzi deserves to be out for the rest of the season and playoffs. But to say his career status needs to be re-evaluated at the start of next season is absolutely idiotic.
I've seen some news reports from Denver, and they are full of shit. The american media has blown the whole matter out of proportion. If it had happened between 2 canadian teams, there would be half as much coverage.
It makes me quite mad really.

Far from not violent??!!....please explain to me what's not violent about punching someone while their back is turned and then driving their head into the ice, knocking them unconscious &breaking their neck.....I would like to know of an incident that is more violent than that....pls enlighten me....

I'm not biased, even if a canadian had been the victim, then I would feel the same about the incident. Its not blown out of proportion - Bertuzzi was sobbing like a little bitch on national television. Canadiens know he fucked up. Everyone knows he fucked up and that the NHL is gonna make him pay for it. Even if a Canadian was the victim, the attacker would still be in as much heat. Just because its a violent sport still doesnt justify Bertuzzi's actions. True, violence is more frowned on & over glorified here in the US, but there still is a fine line of what should be tolerated in the NHL and this crosses that line.

I've been looking for a clip of the incident but I've only found stills. Anyone?

try this

The american media has blown the whole matter out of proportion.

Bingo.
But isn't that always the case?
180+ people died in Madrid today.
That makes me sick.

Well, I'm from Vancouver. I must say I was disgusted by his act. It was dumb, violent and useless. I feel very sorry for Moore and the Colorado Avalanche. The day after it happened I felt horrible. It felt really bad for me and Vancouver to be represented by the Canucks.

However, today I see it differently. I do not know if Bertuzzi jumped on Moore or if he fell. This is important because the punch wouldn't have caused nearly as much damage. It was the fall that did it. And had Moore not broken his neck, it would have been a completely different situation. If Moore lost a few teeth, or was knocked unconcious, everything would be different. Really, this attack isn't that much different from any of the other violence that takes place on ice. Just the injury was different. This isn't to condone Bertuzzi's action, he definetly the blame. All I'm saying is that it's not that different from what we've already seen.

I agree completely with John. Money rules, I guess.

i think that people take sports way to seriously

Sure there's fighting and checking, but hockey isn't that violent. But every once in a while some idiot goes and does something stupid like this.

www.jailbertuzzi.com

Bingo.
But isn't that always the case?
180+ people died in Madrid today.
That makes me sick.

Well atleast Bush hasn't sent troops over there yet to investigate

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It's going to get more crap for the U.S.
Spain never should of supported the War on Iraq, shame.
Anyways, I don't care about Hockey.
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Then don't reply to a hockey related thread.

Far from not violent??!!....please explain to me what's not violent about punching someone while their back is turned and then driving their head into the ice, knocking them unconscious &breaking their neck.....I would like to know of an incident that is more violent than that....pls enlighten me....

I'm not biased, even if a canadian had been the victim, then I would feel the same about the incident.  Its not blown out of proportion - Bertuzzi was sobbing like a little bitch on national television. Canadiens know he fucked up. Everyone knows he fucked up and that the NHL is gonna make him pay for it.  Even if a Canadian was the victim, the attacker would still be in as much heat.  Just because its a violent sport still doesnt justify Bertuzzi's actions. True, violence is more frowned on & over glorified here in the US, but there still is a fine line of what should be tolerated in the NHL and this crosses that line.

I never said it wasn't violent. I said it was far from being one of the most violent acts in sports, which you said it was. Read properly.

Bertuzzi sucker punched a guy. Whoopty-fucking-doo. As I stated, it was vicious and uncalled for, but he only punched a guy. It's up for debate whether he tripped (lost his balance throwing the punch), or actually pulled him down. He never drove the guys head into the ice; take a closer look at the tapes. Not to mention the fucking dogpile of Avs and Canucks players that jumped on him afterwards. Everyone is shocked at how a 245 lb man throws his entire weight onto Moore. Nobody seems to mention how about 6 guys jumped onto him afterwards, thereby aggravating any injuries sustained in the fall.

Furthermore, I'm not talking about if it is a Canadian victim. I'm talking about if the incident happened between two canadian teams.
It's a known fact that the NHL isn't doing to hot in the USA. It's doing great in Canada. We have 6 teams and they are some of the most succesful teams in the market, even though we can hardly compete with the american dollar. The american media sees an incident like this, goes ape shit, demands that Bertuzzi be sent to the furthese realm of hell for his violence, and what happens? The NHL complies. Why? Because it needs to attract fans in the US. It's as simple as that.

Fuck, the Mcsorley/Brashear (sp?) incident several years ago was by far worse than this. Oddly, he got suspended for possibly less games than Bertuzzi (depending on how far Vancouver goes in the playoffs).

The attack was totally uncalled for. If he had happened during the action of the action or had top do with it an ANY way it would have been different. This was nothing but a violent assualt that has taken violence in hockeyt to far. If he would have done something like that on the street as he would have been charged with assault. Just because he is playing a sport does not give him the right the viciously attack and break the neck of another player. Charges should be filed and he should be banned from hockey. NHL using fighting to sell tickets isn't helping. They need to do something about it before it goes any further and someone is paralyzed or killed. I only watch hockey during its postseason. This is because the caliober of hockey played during this time is amazing. I watch hockey when the action is excitng. Not anytime jsut to see mediocre skills and lots of fighting. All pro sports need to return the the fundamentals of sports and make stars out of talented people. MARCH MADNESS! Hell yEAH!

The attack was totally uncalled for. If he had happened during the action of the action or had top do with it an ANY way it would have been different. This was nothing but a violent assualt that has taken violence in hockeyt to far. If he would have done something like that on the street as he would have been charged with assault. Just because he is playing a sport does not give him the right the viciously attack and break the neck of another player. Charges should be filed and he should be banned from hockey. NHL using fighting to sell tickets isn't helping. They need to do something about it before it goes any further and someone is paralyzed or killed. I only watch hockey during its postseason. This is because the caliober of hockey played during this time is amazing. I watch hockey when the action is excitng. Not anytime jsut to see mediocre skills and lots of fighting. All pro sports need to return the the fundamentals of sports and make stars out of talented people. MARCH MADNESS! Hell yEAH!

I would reply to your idiotic post, but I'm tired of typing.

You mention though that you want to see a return to skillful players. Less mediocrity and fighting.
Oddly, Bertuzzi was one of the best players in the league last year, and has been doing a pretty good job this year (22nd overall for points). He also played in last years (and this years) All-Star game.
Therefore your argument doesn't stand.

If he would have done something like that on the street as he would have been charged with assault. Just because he is playing a sport does not give him the right the viciously attack and break the neck of another player.

The point is, we don't know if he fell or jumped on Steve Moore. That's where he broke his neck (or during the dog pile), not because of the punch.

The point is, we don't know if he fell or jumped on Steve Moore. That's where he broke his neck (or during the dog pile), not because of the punch.

Not to mention that in hockey you are allowed to fight, and that you can't in the street.

The point is, we don't know if he fell or jumped on Steve Moore. That's where he broke his neck (or during the dog pile), not because of the punch.

Look carefully at the clip tho, you can tell the Bertuzzi purposefully forced Moore's head into the ice. Now what I think made the injury worse was the weight of Bertuzzi's body on Moore's head against the ice, which may not have been intentional, but I don't think NHL officials will see it that way.

Look carefully at the clip tho, you can tell the Bertuzzi purposefully forced Moore's head into the ice.

Of course you'd say that, you're from Colorado. It didn't look that way at all to me. Not saying he didn't do it, but I'm saying its questionable. I doubt the intention was the break his neck anyways.

Now what I think made the injury worse was the weight of Bertuzzi's body on Moore's head against the ice, which may not have been intentional, but I don't think NHL officials will see it that way.

Nobody seems to mention how about 6 guys jumped onto him afterwards, thereby aggravating any injuries sustained in the fall.