General Chat / Bertuzzi's cheap shot on Steve Moore

Of course he wasn't trying to break his neck. He wanted to pay him back for what he did to Naslund. And anybody that says it's because hockey is a violent sport is full of shit. Bertuzzi was just being a prick, and then people think this is how hockey is played. Fuck that.


Where's the old time hockey, Eddie Shore, Toe Blake.

Bertuzzi deserves to sit out the rest of the season, but not his whole career. If Moore decides to press charges, that's one thing. It should be Moore's choice.

From the tapes, he definitely hit him, but he also shoved his face to the ground. The attack wasn't actually that brutal looking. You probably wouldn't have guessed that Moore broke his neck from it, but obvoiusly, the landing was at an awkward angle. Bertuzzi was wrong, but he definitely didn't mean to break the guy's neck.

But if Moore hadn't broken his neck in the play, even if the same actions had occurred, this wouldn't be a big deal. Vertuzzi would have just gotten a ten game suspension... if even that. Probably more like five.

First of all, Bertuzzi hit him in the face from behind. Even in hockey that's pretty dickless. You just don't hit a guy in the head unless he's looking at you.

Furthermore, the front view of the incident (like the one at 1:40 in the clip JKay linked) shows that Bertuzzi not only hit him but then grabbed with both hands and accelerated Moore's head into the ice (extending both arms). And then he hit him in the head again. You can even see him grab Moore's head and jerk it around as more people pile on.

I've seen lots of hockey fights and serious checks but never anything like that.

First of all, Bertuzzi hit him in the face from behind. Even in hockey that's pretty dickless. You just don't hit a guy in the head unless he's looking at you.

Furthermore, the front view of the incident (like the one at 1:40 in the clip JKay linked) shows that Bertuzzi not only hit him but then grabbed with both hands and accelerated Moore's head into the ice (extending both arms). And then he hit him in the head again. You can even see him grab Moore's head and jerk it around as more people pile on.

I've seen lots of hockey fights and serious checks but never anything like that.

Indeed...it does appear as though he hit with intent. Not just intent, but in a reckless and cowardly (from behind) sort of way. If a guy is gunning for him, go ahead and check him, whatever...but aiming a stick, fist, elbow or anything else and swinging it at someone's head isn't hockey. lt's assault.

I hope he's done (like McSorely), no matter how sorry he is about it. Hockey is violent, but malicious violence like this isn't part of the sport. If you can't be civil, you need to leave the game for good, and if Moore's career is cut prematurely because of this, Bertuzzi should be held responsible, and banned from the game.

Basically, there's no reason for him to be on the ice if Moore can't, afterwards is debatable...

Kai

ok first of all, yes it was a cheap shot and we already know that so everyone can stop repeating the same post over and over again. Next Bertuzzi is a great NHL player and what he did is the exact opposite of the style of game he plays. I was shocked to hear that he did this. I had to go on-line and make sure it was Bertuzzi. Now for you saying he should be banned from playing hockey for life have no idea what your talking about. This is defiently not the worst act of hockey violence ever and if you saw Sportscenter I think the day after the hit, they showed some worse ones. I think the rest of the season, playoffs, and $250,000 is a good enough penalty for his act.

One last thing, fighting is never gonna leave hockey, and for you guys saying that they need to protect players more well guess what, you don't think that these NHL stars don't know what they're doing when the play in the NHL?? Do you think that they will just skate around and never get touched?? Hell no. When you play in the NHL you got to be able to be ready for fights and hits, something like Bertuzzi is unexpected and cheap though I know... but not every single hockey play is gonna be playing fair and don't forget that his teamate got layed out by Moore and yes it was a clean hit though. So it was also emotion that drove Bertuzzi to do that. Let's face it, lets say your best friend or something got injured by someone, wouldn't you be angry the next time you saw and you would like to beat that persons ass also. So please, if you don't watch hockey at all, don't reply, this thread does not need stupid posts going... "OMG CHEEEP SHOT!1!!!11!! BAN 4 LIFE!!!11!!"

If you bothered to read the posts, there was none of that "cheap shot" nonsense.
And regardless of whether or not it was malicious, this is far from being headline worthy.
But, I guess that's individual opinion and my lack of enthusiam for hockey to begin with...

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One last thing, fighting is never gonna leave hockey, and for you guys saying that they need to protect players more well guess what, you don't think that these NHL stars don't know what they're doing when the play in the NHL?? Do you think that they will just skate around and never get touched?? Hell no.

Sometimes I like to compare the NHL to the NBA. Both sports are fairly similar. Fast paced game, can score points at either end, similar "rink" size. Basketball is a fairly agressize sport, with lots of pushing and shoving as is hockey. The major difference is that there are hardly any fights in basketball. Hockey would be no different if fighting were banned.

that "cheap shot" nonsense.

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if you want to correct my sarcasm with the word cheap then I'll correct yours with him and life.

But mine wasn't sarcasm. I meant it.
No, really, I did.

Okay, so maybe I didn't.
The "y" maks it cooler though, you have to admit.

Sometimes I like to compare the NHL to the NBA. Both sports are fairly similar. Fast paced game, can score points at either end, similar "rink" size. Basketball is a fairly agressize sport, with lots of pushing and shoving as is hockey. The major difference is that there are hardly any fights in basketball. Hockey would be no different if fighting were banned.

sorry for the double post but we posted at the same time... as for the "hockey will be the same without fighting" well... your wrong. Cause there are a lot of people that watch hockey games for the fast paced action and fights. Without fights then I think the popularity of hockey would go down somewhat... not a lot but a little bit which is enough already for the money problems in hockey already...

I hope he's done (like McSorely), no matter how sorry he is about it.

Actually, I belive McSorely got suspended for the remainder of his season, which amounted to something like 15 games.
He was supposed to meet with the NHL (something along those lines), but chose himself to not come back. It wasn't that he got banned from the NHL. I don't know of any player who has the "honour" of saying that.

Guys being a die hard hockey fan and player I find this quiet funny. Had a dogpile not have jumped on his back he would have not even gotten a broken neck the actual punch was not powerful enough to break his neck. Lets say for a moment he didnt break the guys neck(which he probably didnt it was most likely the weight of 6 guys further injuring him from the intial punch) Bertuzzi would have got a slap on the wrist and most likely sit out till playoffs. Really I think the NHL should remove the instigator pentaly. Before it was in place you had more fights yes but they where smaller and less harmful. Now when players fight they want to make that 5 mins or more well worth it. Really injuries from fights have increased since the addition of this penalty. Anyways my opion on his punishment is he should sit oput rest of the season and playoffs. I think banning him from hockey is too harsh Bertuzzi is a wonderful guy he isa just a hot head. What people dont talk about is his numerous charties he has done. He is not a bad guy and in no way could I see him thinking 'I want to break this guy's neck.' And this is coming from a Red Wings fan so we arent to found over those Canucks but really guys how many of you guys can say you watch atleast 100 games during the NHL regular season? If you cant say you do you really should not have make an opion because you are basing your whole opion of the sport and this guy on one event. BTW I could not see one way how Bertuzzi he shoved his head into the ice. The guy tripped and fell onto him after the hit if a house falls on you your going to beak something.

First of all, Bertuzzi hit him in the face from behind.

read that again
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