General Chat / better rapper?

There's a difference between not having a taste for a type of music and it "sucking".
Let's not to be ignorant. Or, at the very least try.

Ludacris
Little John
Dizzee Rascal
Twista
Public Enamy
NWA
Run DMC
Outkast
and many more...

Lil Jon can't fucking sing. He just yells in his song.


Kanye West , Biggie, and 2pac are my big 3.

^^No rapper can sing, they just talk in tune with the music. Fucking synthesizers.

^^No rapper can sing, they just talk in tune with the music. Fucking synthesizers.

And you tell me punk rockers can sing? The only type of rock/punk I like is only Nirvana and AFI. Punk rockers what sing like their fucking talking jibberish.

And you tell me punk rockers can sing? The only type of rock/punk I like is only Nirvana and AFI. Punk rockers what sing like their fucking talking jibberish.

First of all, get your genres right jackass. Nirvana is possibly the greatest GRUNGE band ever.
Second of all, how can you tell they're talking jibberish? I'll give you a list of punk bands that are serious, no "jibberish". You can give me a list of serious rappers, no "sex, money, drugs, partying".

You can give me a list of serious rappers, no "sex, money, drugs, partying".

Talib Kweli
Saul Williams
Sage Francis
El-P
Dizzee Rascal
The Roots
Deltron 3030/Del the Funky Homosapien
Dilated Peoples

I would keep going but I'm bored now.

Keep rockin' the suburbs, dude!

Even Eminem doesn't sing about "sex money drugs partying", if you want to put it that way.

Why does every music topic have to become another war front?
Obviously two differing opinions won't agree, so it'll get you nowhere.
It just makes you look even more like an idiot to continue with it.

Rap can be liked by those who like it, and rock can be liked by those who like it.
Don't have a coronary because people don't like what you like.

Why does every music topic have to become another war front?
Obviously two differing opinions won't agree, so it'll get you nowhere.
It just makes you look even more like an idiot to continue with it.

Rap can be liked by those who like it, and rock can be liked by those who like it.
Don't have a coronary because people don't like what you like.

Well, that's a way to kill a conversation.

Saying that it "sucks" doesn't really constitute conversation, does it?
Because that's where this one started out.

2Pac is/was the best end of story.
Snoop and Dre are also classics.
B.I.G.
Jay-Z
Eminem
ect.....

My favorite rap/Hip-Hop artists are, in order:
1. Kamau
2. K-Os
3. Dl Incognito
4. 2pac
5. Rascalz
6. Talib Kweli
7. Lauryn Hill
8. Common
9. Nas
X. MC Solaar

I'd love to argue with some of you over your choices, like Ludacris, Outkast, Snoop, Dr. Dre, Little John, Twista...but this is a "Who's YOUR Favorite", hence any argument regarding lack of talent would be pointless and useless.

About Dizzee Rascal, I've listened to some of his stuff, but it's just way too abstract for me. Must be a British thing.

Yeah, but it makes for interesting conversation. Look, I'll start.

"Lil' Jon" is a worthless, talentless, useless abomination to hiphop. Discuss.

What makes a rapper a rapper.

What makes a rapper a rapper.

some lyrics and a beat.....and if a rapper is good enuf (like 2Pac) they dont need beat and can rap acapella....

No different than a poet, or a normal singer.
Really.

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n.
The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.

A musical composition.
The written or printed score for such a composition.
Such scores considered as a group: We keep our music in a stack near the piano.
A musical accompaniment.
A particular category or kind of music.
An aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds: the music of the wind in the pines.

We are so white.

I like how you hip-hop gurus throw the word "beat" around....

And how you use rap and acapella in the same sentence....


But really, I don't care much for rap, but I'm not going to bash the snot out of it. It's a big genre (if you can call it music, I'll just call it rhythmic prose) and arguing against it just won't help anybody. Though, if some person strictly listens to rap and can't accept rock or classical as having talent or substence (not neccisarily likes it), that's a bunch of crap and should be dealt with...

The only rap song I like that I've come across is the "Aw skeet skeet skeet..." one, but that guy has a funny voice...

yup metal, I'm beyond white.

The only rap song I like that I've come across is the "Aw skeet skeet skeet..." one, but that guy has a funny voice...

I'm very sorry. 'Get Low' has to be one of my least liked rap songs... I think the lyrics are just repetitive and pointless.

Rap songs don't have to have synthesized "beats", but you can't say they aren't musicians for it, they just don't play instruments... And there's plenty of "pop" music that people claim is music that use synthesizers and people that can't sing. If rap isn't "music"... why is pop "music"?... half of them can't sing either.

if a rapper is good enuf (like 2Pac) they dont need beat and can rap acapella

Only the true rap artists are able to do this. Nas, 2pac, K-Os, Kamau etc.. Anyone with a message, or intresting lyrics can rap with no beat. Sometimes this helps get the message across when you are "forced" to listen to what they have to say, instead of just listening to the beat.