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  • Corkscrewed%s's Photo
    Just don't replicate Kraken track for track. I'll have a summary of my interrogation with Fatha up tomorrow or something if he doesn't explain in his own words or whatnot. :)
  • Metropole%s's Photo
    Ooooh, nice work Steve. Very realistic and congrats on the parkmaker spot.

    The park was really really good. Hurricane was a gret Kraken inspired coaster. It had an excellent layout and some really cool realistic touches. I agree with Phatage on the naming though.

    The search for Kidd building was awesome. I was going to have the backs open in the dark rides in Boscastle heights, but decided against it. It works well and gives us a view of what the inside would be like.

    The architecture in the park was really nice, exactly what I have come to expect off you. Loved the intergration of the rounded blocks.

    My favourite part of the entry was probably the stadium. It was really really well done with the fantastic roof. I also loved where the guests went into it which screamed realism at me somehow.

    I (again) agree with Phatage that you could have done a little more with the exibits to make them more believable as they seemed bare and didn't convince me that animals would be living in there.

    I didn't like the Junior coaster, way too short and pretty dull. Nice colours though.

    Overall, great park, though I can't decide where I would place it. cbass', X's and yours are all pretty damn close in quality IMO despite them being 2 totally different parks. I'll have to look at them all again.

    Well done Steve.

    Metro 8)
  • Evil WME%s's Photo
    Wow, even though i somewhat expected something like this to appear from steve it's still nice to look at. I think it still misses a little tiny something to take it to the level of absolute awe from my side, but it's pretty damn close and by the things i've been seeing from you, steve, i'd say the moment that you're going to totally have me drooling over my keyboard might not be too far away!

    I love the way the vertical loop is done with the grass underneath, i also think the theatre was skillfully done with the wooden track. I think the architecture could be slightly more elegant in places, and since i do think i remember seeing some architecture by you that appealed to me more i think you're capable of it. I think the problem is too many details at places for me, i really like what you did with the big brown building for the water ride with the red roof. the more quarter tile pieces start to play their part the more architecture seems to lose some of its elegance.

    I do agree with fatha' that the sea world choice is a little dissapointing (i don't agree with putting this below god knows what parks he put it below..) It would have suited you better to make a park with a different theme, i'm hoping we'll get that one later ;P.

    Definitely not the best park ever, but definitely one of the first that strives more towards the same ideals i set in parkmaking for myself. If i had judged:

    Old Red's Rugged Range. ---------(2.0)

    Kumba's Memory Lane. ---------(2.6)

    Jazz' Mossflower Wood. ---------(3.4)

    Six Frag's Cinemagic. ---------(3.5)

    Magnus' Genesis. ---------(3.7)

    X250's Time Machine. ---------(5.9)

    Jkay's Ecstasy Summit. ---------(6.1)

    Dark Janus' En Midvinternattsdröm. ---------(6.6)

    Steves' Sea World Brisbane. ---------(7.3)

    Cbass' Zodiac Thrills. ---------(7.4)
  • egg_head%s's Photo
    I'm totally in love with this. A very great semi-realistic park.
    Can't wait to see what's above this...
    Steve I'm glad you remembered my ships ;)X
  • cBass%s's Photo
    Sorry for the delay in stats. Busy weekend. More later...

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  • JKay%s's Photo
    ^ditto.

    I just wanted to give a quick congrats on the parkmaker spot steve. You've had it a long time coming.

    I'm pretty impressed by what I see so far with the park. Much more in-depth analysis tonight.
  • X250%s's Photo
    Congrats on the parkmaker spot!

    The park i thought was good, a little bland in places though, and a little confusing. It seems that you were a little pushed for time maybe, because there are quite a few little mistakes in there, just small stuff like the odd floating object or an unamed sign, nothing really 'terrible' lol. I really enjoyed the piratey ride, and Hurricane, yeah it was a bit too much like Kraken but that certainly aint no bad thing. What confused me was what were the blank areas with fences around for?

    Overall a pleasant entry, but for me there was not enough to capture my interest for too long and i just thought the whole park was too 'safe', if ya know what i mean. Well done though, its certainly a major improvement to your past works.

    -X-
  • Splash-0%s's Photo
    I really loved it, it was such a beautiful park to look at. The atmosphere was superb on some places and everything wasn't messy and cluttered together at all. You gave it space and it really worked out very well IMO, plus that the coaster was fantastic.

    Congratulations on the parkmaker spot Steve :)
  • ACEfanatic02%s's Photo
    Definately the best composition yet. Great atmosphere, nice theming. Reminded me of slob, which is good.

    The coasters were solid, though I wasn't really a fan of Hurricane. Not because it's a Kraken "recreation" (BTW, folks, that's not a recreation. Take a look where the dive loop should be), but some of the elements just looked awkward, especially the cobra roll.

    Still, best yet, and looking forward to the rest!

    -ACE
  • gir%s's Photo
    Well, I actually bothered to download this but I cannot open it because I'm missing an object (gg RCT2 :(). Looking at the screenshots though Steve, you definitely got shafted. The thing is though, I know you will justify this soon with a mind-blowing spotlight. Congrats on the parkmaker spot Steve, you earned it. :)
  • Geoff%s's Photo
    Absolutely gorgeous.

    The pirate area was a total orgasm for me. Search for Kidd was amazing.

    I couldn't have asked anything more from you Steve. The architecture, foliage, color schemes etc. were all on par. You're an absolute perfectionist when it comes to this game.

    I just wish it were bigger. Definitely had the quality... but not the quantity. Still though, shouldn't it be quality over quantity? I certainly think so.

    Lovely, lovely stuff. Completely lush, and exquisite. This is Steve at the top of his game!

    Congrats on the parkmaker spot!!
  • Ride6%s's Photo
    ^I'm in total agreement. I find myself rotating through all the views and such but I still just run out of material here. A full scale solo of this "level" would really strive to hit the hight tide mark not reached since RoB (in rct2, and Isole Calabria comes close).

    Well Steve I really think my park will desirve every honest negitive comment it gets after this, because though I filled more of the map my entry can't touch this in beauty and refinement.

    ride6

    Edited by ride6, 06 March 2006 - 04:34 PM.

  • Jazz%s's Photo
    Wow. Xcoaster's park must be amazing...

    Anyways, it looks excellent from the screens. I'll give a full review later if I get the chance.

    Congrats on the Top 5 finish/Parkmaker Slot BTW Steve, well-deserved.

    ~Jazz~
  • Buckeye Becky%s's Photo

    Unfortunately for Steve, he lands the infamous 3 spot from Fatha’ that nobody wanted, claiming that Steve’s Sea World Brisbane was another in a long line of Sea World replicas, that it was a bit too boring, and that he had seen way too many Kraken recreations.


    Eek....I'm agreeing with Fatha'...somewhat anyway. I certainly would not have given this park a 3 :eek: but boring....um yeah.

    To be honest, this one didn't do much for me.  If I had judged, I think this would have been behind Jkay, Cbass, and X250. The park was quite small and contained a lot of empty space. 


    I agree with eman here. Quite frankly, it looked to me like it was done in a couple weeks....I may be way off base there, but if I am, then...whoa...it took awhile to do that? Sorry if that sounds harsh...

    I understand how you couldn't put anything living in the exhibits, as I know putting entertainers would be cheesy for this style, but I really do think you could've themed the exhibits a little such as putting some foliage in there and a little man-made waterfall here and there.


    I agree with that too...why in the world were there so many blank exhibits? If you weren't going to 'do' something with them...then don't have so many...just was odd.

    What the hell was in each exibit? I keept looking for a sign, but found none. No point even doing it if your not gona put some thought into it. Also I hated the color on both flat rides in the park, you have this buteaful sea world theme with 2 flats mixed in that look right out of a shity county fair, that just confused me.


    OK...same here, as said before...yes, the other flat rides were out of place. Like I said earlier, was this done last minute? Was there not very much thought put into it?

    It felt really empty, and kinda proves to me you will never be able to finish a full scale solo park (prove me wrong :p )..


    I echo that comment too...I congratulate you Steve for making parkmaker spot, but now I think you still need to prove you deserved it, because based on this entry and your collection of work (no large maps), I'd say you are still a great potential parkmaker.

    I'd also say that things in the park seemed way off scale to me...the lighthouse seemed dinky in comparison to the grandstand..the grandstand seemed dinky compared to that humongous splash boat building...

    The grandstand show...looked like a puddle in front of it.... :p

    You've got it, no doubt....I love your style and you are obviously talented, I'd just like you to put something with some substance and thought together! :nod:

    Edited by Buckeye Becky, 06 March 2006 - 06:17 PM.

  • Kumba%s's Photo
    Steve ever gona reply?

    It still ticks me off that last year after barely beating me out and getting a parkmaker spot John never replied or said thank you, maybe it goes hand and hand with making sea parks :p
  • JKay%s's Photo
    Mr. Steve. Like you've also said about me, I've found a new mutual respect for not only what you've done here, but what your style brings to the game these days. While I consider this a very conservative approach to parkmaking, I still respect it dearly. This entry puts a new light on the level of talent you bring and I think every parkmaker at this site could learn something from you. Congrats on NE Parkmaker, I knew it was only a matter of time for that to happen. On to the park.

    The park is imaccualate and asthetically gorgeous on almost all levels for me. The architecture is just astoundingly good. I just loved how the front half of the park had a more ordinary 2x3 and 2x2 approach to architecture while the back half of the park just kinda melted into a perfect conglomeration of buildings. I still don't know how you get so much detail yet keeping such a clean look. Even the litter bins were placed with extreme care.

    I found very few deficiencies with the park. Objectively, I found very few flaws on the surface except for maybe a few out of place objects and some questionable foliage choices. I did get a feeling like this belonged on a much larger map. While the entrance area was great, it took up a lot of the map and didn't really have any defining rides like the back half did. A bit too much water too, imo. The Hurricane area was really nice, although nothing really fresh with such a traditional coaster. I didn't get the "hurricane" theme either.

    If this thing was expanded in to a full-scale solo, it would own. Strangely enough, its almost like this park was too good for me not to see more. I still find cbass' park slight better, just because it has a better level of substance imo, but just above X250 because this entry is much more composed.

    Also, for fun, I've posted screens of my 3 favorite details. I hope you don't mind Steve. Maybe some others will agree with me on how astounding these are.

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    #1 - The whole foundational archtecture of the Nautilus Theatre was just amazing. These columnal flower planters shown here are just godly.

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    #2 - Easily the best station I've seen from you, ever. The use of glass here keeps the Sea World feel into this without ruining the theme.

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    #3 - My favorite snippet of the entire park. Easily the most convincing indoor ride I've ever seen and one of the best ever.


    If I were a judge (10-scale):
    Old Red [4.0]
    Magnus [5.0]
    Kumba [5.2]
    Six Frags [6.0]
    Jazz [6.5]
    X250 [7.5]
    darkjanus [8.0]
    Steve [8.3]
    cbass [8.5]

    *thanks emergo...

    Edited by JKay, 07 March 2006 - 08:11 AM.

  • Emergo%s's Photo
    ^ (Not my list, but okay): can imagine you are "too modest"" (?) to place yourself, but where's the incredible entry of Drkjanus in your list?? :lol:
  • Steve%s's Photo
    Okay, not entirely sure where to start here. Apparently the park is getting some very mixed feelings, and I'll try to adress the appropriate topics. Sorry in advance if I jump around too much while I try to explain.

    Am I mad at Fatha? No, not at all. In fact I would agree with his placing because I'm just so modest it kills me, but there is a side of me that wants to disagree. First thing I want to get out of the way: I rushed. There was probably a good month of work done, then two month break, then another couple weeks to finish. I guess I lost intrest in between. The main goal of this was to get something in because it was looking like this contest was going to flop so I wanted to get something in. Hence it feeling very empty and tons of water. I also know that the park is pretty inconsistant and not that interesting. I was pretty much trying to just finish something for a change. Secondly, the exhibits were meant to get themed, have animals, etc. This also got taken over by the "Steve-procrastinated-so-he's-not-going-to-bother-theming-them" ordeal. I didn't think the emptiness hurt the park TOO much and I was hoping other things in the park would simply gloss over them but I guess not. Wishful thinking on my part. The Hurricane coaster is also not a Kraken recreation. It's just a very poor one. Ha.

    I would love to hear what you have to say Fatha. I think everyone would. I just hope iris is wrong in his assumption of you getting tired of Sea World parks. Sounds kind of hypocritical to me. But even still, please post.

    Thank you all for the wonderful comments too. I know it's pretty hit or miss for some, not so much for others. But I set out at what I wanted to do, and that was to build an elegant entry - albeit a very rushed one. I'm also really happy to hear that you all enjoyed Kidd. It was the last thing I did and I put the most thought into it along with Hurricane.

    Glad to hear I'm finally a parkmaker now. Hopefully it won't be too long before I start that double-spotlight winning park, huh? ;)
    Thanks again, guys. iris especially, and Cork for the very cool logo.
  • tracidEdge%s's Photo
    fucking classy, steve. that's all i can say, this park wowed me. sure, some of it seemed rushed and a little sloppy in places, but where you got it, you really made some of the best work i've seen in the game for a long time. congrats on the top five finish and the parkmaker spot.

    now go do a solo!
  • Corkscrewed%s's Photo
    So I'm betting Fatha won't answer... in part because I already grilled him last night.

    This post will be edited after I shower and then finally look at your park, but Fatha's comments centered around the following (and I hope I don't misquote him in any of this).

    Fatha's Opinion (Summarized by Corkscrewed):

    The biggest thing that turned him off was what appeared to be a copycat of things he's seen numerous times before. The initial impression was that Steve copied RRP, who had copied Nevis. The unoriginality had an immediate and drastic negative effect that was heightened when Fatha noticed that Hurricane was virtually a track-for-track clone of Kraken--once again something he's seen way too many times. Search for Kidd was nice, but it also seemed like a rehash of similar rides that had been done before. The park was pretty bare, and there were some parts left undone.

    The architecture and theming was indeed excellent, but here's why Fatha didn't think it was enough to redeem Sea World Brisbane: pretty much all the other parks featured equally good architecture and theming. Maybe not as technically skilled, but the range of the top 12 entries were all relatively the same in the architecture department. In that sense, this category sort of canceled itself out. Thus, when Fatha saw the "unoriginality," he thought "oh great, I've seen this a hundred times before."

    So basically, he got bored pretty quickly, and as he further explored the park, there was little to dissuade him from his initial opinion. It's definitely nice, but it did absolutely nothing for Fatha. Essentially, this was a recreation. And if you're gonna do a recreation, it better be so amazing that it makes Fatha forget that it's a recreation. Otherwise, it's Grinching time!

    In retrospect, this park would have remained around the same area, maybe jumping a couple of spots up. Fatha mentioned, last night, that this is better than Cinemagic, but from there, SWB doesn't challenge much else.




    So I can understand his reasoning, altho I still disagree. Hopefully, this clears some things up, and hopefully, I didn't skew anything he might have meant (since I just typed all of this up from memory). So there you go. WHY STEVE GOT GRINCHED. :)