Park / Baker Lake Amusement Park

07-April 16
Baker Lake Amusement Park

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G Force Offline

You already know how I feel about critiques and you know we both agree on constructive criticism.

I think it's your exasperated tone and overall negativity when you're talking that makes the whole video review very irksome. For example your critique on the backstage roads were spot on. But instead of saying straight up "your backstage area is a little convoluted, planning out the roads so they are functional would improve the backlot areas", you sigh and say "I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, but... *sigh*...I guess... I don't know".

It's overwhelmingly negative. Your compliments were almost like concessions. "Well, I DO like this coaster....but I don't know..."

I feel like I could almost hear you saying "ew" in your head as you go around the park and point out all the mistakes and things you don't like.

This should be a celebration of a great achievement. Critiques are always welcome as we are part of a very critical community, but they shouldn't overshadow praise which is always due for a park this great.

I can understand that, bringing a cheerful or even slightly enthused tone is not my specialty, obviously. Perhaps in this case it was more my frustration with the park being submitted in the state that it was, that brought the overly dower tone. The fact that one can spend years and hundreds of hours on something, only to slack off in the end and leave some things that really bring down the whole product.

I mean, if he fixed the backstage, and did a better job naming and peeping the park, then I probably would have given it a 95%. However, due to some very easy to fix mistakes and such, its hard for me to give it higher than an 80%, even if those mistakes could have been fixed in an hour or two.
posted 8 years ago
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Coasterbill Offline

There's no need to apologize for your opinion. If Coups wants to read a useless review with no critiques at all that does nothing but talk excessively about how great the park is he can read mine. Lol
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AvanineCommuter Fan Offline

I can understand that, bringing a cheerful or even slightly enthused tone is not my specialty, obviously. Perhaps in this case it was more my frustration with the park being submitted in the state that it was, that brought the overly dower tone. The fact that one can spend years and hundreds of hours on something, only to slack off in the end and leave some things that really bring down the whole product.

I mean, if he fixed the backstage, and did a better job naming and peeping the park, then I probably would have given it a 95%. However, due to some very easy to fix mistakes and such, its hard for me to give it higher than an 80%, even if those mistakes could have been fixed in an hour or two.

My frustration isn't about your opinion on the park, it was more with how you expressed it in such a harsh and negative manner.
Your critiques are generally on point and I agree that the park could have used that final sweep to fix the little details. Obviously there are things to improve on with every park.

So yes, no need to apologize for your opinion. Maybe just try to be more conscious of how your tone and critiques come off when reviewing a park...
posted 8 years ago
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][ntamin22 Offline

Slow on the vote as usual; I'm an 85% and was waffling on the spotlight call.
posted 8 years ago
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bigshootergill Offline

We need a separate thread to review G-Force's reviews, maybe put them to accolade voting
posted 8 years ago
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Xeccah Offline

(NOTE: I really only talk about stuff in this reply/review that interest me. Rides themselves don't really do anything for me. I don't play rct to build rollercoasters, ironically enough)

I share Ling's opinion that this style is getting so damn formulaic. It hurt this, and it hurt Westwinds.

I feel like what posix has said about gijssie's new release strikes truth more with Baker Lake than it does with that. This is quintessentially the "realism" formula, exacerbated and personified into one park. The center lake trope is one that, now a days, seems more like a cop out for more interesting park composition than anything else. Even the themes, the composition of the structures, detailing, and the placement of rides feels like it came from a formula that's been in-writing for a decade now. This in it of itself is not bad, but I feel like it does bar Baker Lake from being a spotlight. I only found, really, one area to be up to snuff as far as earning spotlight is concerned, and that of course is the "northwest" area. The integration of rides, path, queue, and theming is what ought to be expected out of a spotlight. It kept a clear art direction throughout but maintained true to the creator's style; many personal details were added that definitely makes this area stand out as truly great. I can't really say that for the rest of the park. You, coupon, have a really good eye for micro-detailing. If you were to take this park as parts of a whole, this park is brilliant. But in many areas, you didn't take the potential to make the areas (and in extension, the park) a more cohesive and readable whole. Everything fought for attention in this park, down to the needlessly eye-catching forms and colors, along with the rides, and the fact that you decided to take a maximalistic route with this park makes this problem worse. EVERYTHING is unique, and yet none of it is at all. Whole areas of the park could have dealt far better if you kept to a more direct, deliberate art direction as well as keeping your color palates maintained. Perhaps, even, a few less things would have helped. Tempesto is a fantastic ride, but the placement of the entrance encroaches onto the boardwalk area, where having a proper transition would have helped guide the viewers eyes into adjacent areas. The splash boats is another example of this; you make a generic ride but give it a different feel and aesthetic to the rest of the area, and you make it stick out. The Super Loop and the Topspin are also examples, as their forms and how they contour the path actually hurts the flow and either of them really add anything more than ten seconds of something to look at. I'm apathetic about the waterpark and stage, as they fit into this maximalist way of doing things that quite robbed you of spotlight.

To be said, if I were to give this an objective review, there would be several more paragraphs of praise, noting how well you did the entrance and mainstreet, as well as some of the more interesting architectural forms and how certain things, apart from a whole, look amazing. In fact the whole park is this way, but its saddening to me to see so many potentially great parks snuff out on the "higher-thought" things that make them, in the end, not so.
posted 8 years ago
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Coasterbill Offline

So we have comments that the park's size hurt it's Spotlight chances and comments that the lake could be seen as a cop out. He hit the object limit. A central lake is actually a great way to make parks appear larger and conserve object spaces. Without that the park would have been even smaller.

And also it's a shame to see this realism thing come up again. The general idea of this game is to allow people to design their own theme parks and roller coasters. Obviously the vast majority of people are going to design them based on things they've seen in real life... hell the game comes pre-loaded with (horrible) Six Flags park and ride recreations.

People act as if realism is a formula and it's easy to do but that's really not the case. It took him years to build this park.

For the record, unlike with Westwinds I have no issue with the score. It was borderline and that was reflected in the voting. I just don't agree with some of the criticisms.
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bigshootergill Offline

Missing one YES vote for spotlight isn't really 'hurting his chances' of winning the award. Obviously this is spotlight quality, just not everyone who voted was convinced of that. I'm sure even those that voted NO went back & forth before deciding.
posted 8 years ago
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Jappy Offline

After all those really detailed reviews and discussions on spotligth or no, I'm just going to say my opinion on this park:

I really like it.

The end
posted 8 years ago
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Lotte Offline

2016 is going to be the year of barely missed spotlights...
posted 8 years ago
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chorkiel Offline

2016 is going to be the year of barely missed spotlights...

You mean after the 3 we had in 2015?
posted 8 years ago
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Louis! Offline

I think I did a great job on the layouts I did.

Nice park coups.

(I'll review properly later)
posted 8 years ago
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][ntamin22 Offline

I think I did a great job on the layouts I did.

Most Louis Quote of the Week
posted 8 years ago
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Scoop Offline

really I thought it was this

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posted 8 years ago
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Goliath123 Offline

I think its a fantastic park, well done
posted 8 years ago
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chemist Offline

Wow, just speechless already by looking at the drive thrus at the fast foods..I can't wait to check this bad boy out!
posted 8 years ago
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CHE Fan Offline

Baker Lake is so colorful and atmospheric, love it! "Amusement" is written all over this park.
posted 8 years ago
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Coupon Offline

version 3 coming soon guys
posted 8 years ago
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Jappy Offline

You're kidding, right Coups? ............Right?!
posted 8 years ago
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Coupon Offline

Flashback Friday
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