General Chat / Media Players

The moment your started saying how solid M$'s programs are, and how solid they're programming is, you lost all credibility.

I actually thought he was being sarcastic when he started talking about how great Microsoft's coders are.

Regardless. Kiddo is right.
Here's why I don't like Windows Media Player (or RealOne, for that matter):
I don't need any shitty-ass visualisations, I don't need any dumbass, retarded skins, I don't need half the other useless shit Microsoft insist on bundling with all their products.
Here's what I want: Something fast, something reliable, and something small.
Winamp is all these things.
Both Windows Media Player and Realone are slow, big, bloated, lumbering monstrosities with a bunch of worthless bullshit that only idiots (AKA: people who aren't me) use.
I don't need to play video files either (and if I do, I'll use Quicktime).

Really, I can't stand the huge, fullscreen interfaces, the long startup times, and all the shit that comes along with Windows Media Player.

Although, having said all that, Windows Media Player 6 (I think it's six...), is the best fucking thing ever. Very quick (instant startup, man), small, lightweight, and all-round cool. Sadly, it doesn't support playlists, which makes it useless.
I long for an uberplayer.
Oh well.

Small enough for you Git?

Git, what version of WinAmp do you use?

2.9
And I meant small in two ways.. I resent huge, bloated programs, you see. And you can't tell me Media Player isn't bloated.

2.9
And I meant small in two ways.. I resent huge, bloated programs, you see. And you can't tell me Media Player isn't bloated.

Git.

What do you mean by "bloated"? I you're talking about features and extra crap then I would think WinAmp would win there. Never the less I don't know what you mean by bloated.

I use Wmp because it sounds better on my pc. Wmp has the speaker enhancements and bass control for my large speakers, it goes a hell of a lot louder then winamp. BUT Winamps visuals are 10 times cooles then wmp execpt for my oddworld's munch's oddysee visual, it PWNS ... but probably in 3 years Microsoft will own winamp too.

2.9
And I meant small in two ways.. I resent huge, bloated programs, you see. And you can't tell me Media Player isn't bloated.

Yes it is a little bloated, but I aways just put up the mini player.... you can control it from the task bar too, which i see glitch put a pic of...

400th post and still a sweeper...

Git, what you demand a media player not to do, is precisely what I demand a media player, well, do. And RealOne Player also has the best playback quality, which should mean something.

However, the dBpowerAMP should suit your needs, perfectly.

It has everything good about WinAmp, made better. And nothing more, that I can see. It might even have less (but its still a better player, overall).

Real player and WMP are plagued with ads, Quicktime is just plain weird, so I use Winamp.

Their isn't a single ad on either RealPlayer or WMP. You're an idiot, idot.

Real player and WMP are plagued with ads, Quicktime is just plain weird, so I use Winamp

you dumbass...

the gayest media player EVER : MUSIC MATCH JUKEBOX
im sure you all agree

gee, i wonder if anyone is familiar with ultraplayer =P

gee, i wonder if anyone is familiar with ultraplayer =P

*sheepishly raises hand*

Meh.

Ultraplayer is weak. So I'm not just talking shit can you give me a link to thier site so I actually know what it is?

QUOTE (Andrew @ Jun 1 2003, 09:03 PM)
Real player and WMP are plagued with ads, Quicktime is just plain weird, so I use Winamp 

you dumbass...

mmmmm, okay, not just spam or anything, why am I a dumbass this time, jackass

the gayest media player EVER : MUSIC MATCH JUKEBOX
im sure you all agree

maybe not #1, but its way up there on shittiness

QUOTE (Andrew @ Jun 1 2003, 09:03 PM)
Real player and WMP are plagued with ads, Quicktime is just plain weird, so I use Winamp 

you dumbass...

mmmmm, okay, not just spam or anything, why am I a dumbass this time, jackass

the gayest media player EVER : MUSIC MATCH JUKEBOX
im sure you all agree

maybe not #1, but its way up there on shittiness

Well said chap, well said.

MusicMatch box is a good ripper at the least, it can organize well but thats about all.

And Vert, was that hick-ish insult really needed? This is supposed to be a friendly thread with intelligent crits.

http://www.ultraplayer.com/

go ahead, rip it to pieces ^_~
the one fault i think it has is that the startup is animated (the 2 parts that make up the player fly into eachother from perpendicular directions).

And it plays any audio or video file in existence, as long as you have the codecs.

Just to see, which was truly the best media player I made a VBR 128kbps MP3 of Amon Tobin's "Natureland" and played it on the following players: RealOne Player Plus, WinAmp, and WMA.

I tried my best to take full advantage of each players playback functions, while keeping an equal balance between them for the sake of comparison.

Windows Media Player provided the worst playback. It was muddled, lifeless and caused quite a bit of distortion in my speakers. I wouldn't use it, if I were you, at all.

WinAmp and RealOne Player Plus however, are about equal with RealOne having the slight advantage.

WinAmp's playback is brilliantly clear, you can hear each note perfectly! However, it was lacking in life (but not nearly as much as Windows Media Player) however, and created minor distortion in my speakers.

RealOne however, wasn't as clear as WinAmp. No, not at all. However what it looses in clarity, it more then makes up for with in terms of that all important "life". Also, no distortion once so ever! The lack of clarity improves the feeling of a live performance in many ways too, if you want to look at it like that.

So in the end, what's more important: perfectly clear audio, or realistic live-sounding, organic playback?

If its the first, use WinAmp, if its the second use RealOne. And if rating Microsoft products far too highly sounds like fun to you, then you're an idiot. But Windows Media Player should suit your needs, I guess.

And yes, this opinion was (almost) completely unbiased. At the time I wrote this I was actually using WinAmp more than the other two, but I think I'll stick with RealOne now.

Merry night to you all, and to all, a good Christmas. Or something.

PS: Maybe I'll download Ultra Player and see how that works, maybe I won't. Hmm... decisions.

Just to see, which was truly the best media player I made a VBR 128kbps MP3 of Amon Tobin's "Natureland" and played it on the following players: RealOne Player Plus, WinAmp, and WMA.

I tried my best to take full advantage of each players playback functions, while keeping an equal balance between them for the sake of comparison.

Windows Media Player provided the worst playback. It was muddled, lifeless and caused quite a bit of distortion in my speakers. I wouldn't use it, if I were you, at all.

WinAmp and RealOne Player Plus however, are about equal with RealOne having the slight advantage.

WinAmp's playback is brilliantly clear, you can hear each note perfectly! However, it was lacking in life (but not nearly as much as Windows Media Player) however, and created minor distortion in my speakers.

RealOne however, wasn't as clear as WinAmp. No, not at all. However what it looses in clarity, it more then makes up for with in terms of that all important "life". Also, no distortion once so ever! The lack of clarity improves the feeling of a live performance in many ways too, if you want to look at it like that.

So in the end, what's more important: perfectly clear audio, or realistic live-sounding, organic playback?

If its the first, use WinAmp, if its the second use RealOne. And if rating Microsoft products far too highly sounds like fun to you, then you're an idiot. But Windows Media Player should suit your needs, I guess.

And yes, this opinion was (almost) completely unbiased. At the time I wrote this I was actually using WinAmp more than the other two, but I think I'll stick with RealOne now.

Merry night to you all, and to all, a good Christmas. Or something.

PS: Maybe I'll download Ultra Player and see how that works, maybe I won't. Hmm... decisions.

Chuances.

Get new speakers and a sound card, because your wrong. My WMP files play amazing. I've listened to the Flaming Lips shiz on it and it sounds alot better than with WinAmp.

There is also the fact that you might be hard of hearing, or you might just be insane and biased. BTW, get new speakers. Logitec make great ones.

One a second thought. I think this whole thing with you and MediaPlayers might just be the fact that you love to take the other side of everything. But then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Note: The best way to audio equipment and players is with a female voice that varies in notes.

My speakers don't suck! They aren't regular computer speakers anywho, they're television speakers. Good television speakers, so obviously they'll have a different sound to them than "normal" computer speakers.

But I'm just saying, that with my computer, and my speakers, RealAudio is hands down the best audio player. With WinAmp comming in an impossibly close second.

Also, Glitchwolf, do you use the Equalizer? I hated WinAmp until I started using that thing, makes all the difference. Same with RealOne.

Edit:

I've listened to the Flaming Lips shiz on it and it sounds alot better than with WinAmp.

The Flaming Lips? Don't get me wrong, they're brilliant. However they've made nothing with the complexity, depth or musicality of the song I chose. Maybe the problem isn't my soundcard or speakers, but rather your taste?

You're the funny the funneh. But really, it's not my taste. I've got the most varried assortion of music on my computer, I'm pretty sure it's not my taste. If it was it wouldn't matter in the first place because taste doesn't have anything to do with how well you're Media Player works.

Also, there is no difference between computer speakers and TV speakers they are the same, it just depends on quaility, so what you said there was pretty much irrelevant except for the fact that you said good speakers.

I never really fooled around with the EQ on WinAmp, I don't have enough free time to do that. I've got a life unlike you. When I'm on the computer I am working on something all the time. So yeah.

But then again it all goes back to that it is your comp and certain programs work bettter with certain computers.

It took me less than a minute to figure out the perfect equalizer settings on WinAmp for my computer, it isn't too difficult at all. Maybe just using a preset would work?

The equalizer is there for a purpose, use it! Also, computer speakers tend to be designed for Video Game music (with great highs, decent mids, and little to no bass, without a subwoofer at least).

Television speakers tend to have good bass, good mids, and good highs.

Anywho...

I'm going to be moving to another computer soon (not a new one, a laptop that was my moms, and has a better memory, processor power, and more disk space then my PC!).

So I'll be needing good speakers for that, do you have a link to some place where I could find out more about those "good" Logitech speakers?

Not that I should really trust somebody who thinks Microsoft makes good products...

I don't know how to use the Winamp equalizer. The presets are good enough for me.

And, um, Gardner, what the fuck do you mean by "life"? I'm perplexed.